Replacing a hero / Passive ability icon not showing

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Replacing a hero

Ok, so I'm making this upgrade that changes hero attack type to chaos. The only way to make it is replacing the old hero with a similar hero that has Chaos attack type. Now I need to make variables for: Old hero's items, Old hero's experience, Old hero's ability levels. Simply I don't know how to, can someone please help me?
The trigger is now like this:

• Upgrade Corruption
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Finishes an upgrade
  • Conditions
    • (Researched tech-type) Equal to Corruption
  • Actions
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units owned by (Owner of (Researching unit))) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (Unit-type of (Picked unit)) Equal to Witch Slayer
          • Then - Actions
            • Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Witch Slayer Chaos using The old unit's relative life and mana
          • Else - Actions

(Witch Slayer is the only hero I have made by now )
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Ability icon not showing

I made this ability, Energy Ravage (wich makes units in 300/400/500/600 range lose 25/40/55/70 mana and take the same amount as Pure damage each time they cast a spell). I based the ability on Slow (Tornado), the tornado ability that slows nearby units. I changed the buff to Energy Ravage Lv 1/2/3/4. But! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: When I learn the ability on the hero, the ability doesn't show up in the button screen. I don't have an idea why. The Art - Button Position is set to a available button position.

Before you say the ability is overpowered, I say it is an ultimate (yes, in my game ultimates have 4 levels).

 

[Tinker]

The only way to make it is replacing the old hero with a similar hero that has Chaos attack type.

No, thats not the only way. You can just use any orb item wich will use the attack 2 of the hero.

 

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No, thats not the only way. You can just use any orb item wich will use the attack 2 of the hero.

This will make the hero lose a space in the inventory, I don't want the hero to lose a space in the inventory.

 

[TheLegend]

he didnt mean orb as an item but the ability that the orb has, just ad the ability to he hero and voala

 

[Tinker]

he didnt mean orb as an item but the ability that the orb has, just ad the ability to he hero and voala

Thanks god...

 

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he didnt mean orb as an item but the ability that the orb has, just ad the ability to he hero and voala

Ok, so I will be making an item orb ability that causes hero attack to change to Attack 2 and anulate Attack 1. I have two questions before doing that:
1. The attribute bonus damage still works if I change to Attak 2?
2. My hero has feedback ability, if I anulate Attack 1 I think feedback will stop working because it just works for Attack 1. Is that right?

 

[Tinker]

Ok, so I will be making an item orb ability that causes hero attack to change to Attack 2 and anulate Attack 1. I have two questions before doing that:
1. The attribute bonus damage still works if I change to Attak 2?
2. My hero has feedback ability, if I anulate Attack 1 I think feedback will stop working because it just works for Attack 1. Is that right?

I have no idea, why not try it out yourself? No madness.

 

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Well I prefered to use the replacing hero method. Now I made the trigger and it didn't work. Can someone explain to me what is wrong, please?

• Upgrade Corruption
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Finishes an upgrade
  • Conditions
    • (Researched tech-type) Equal to Corruption
  • Actions
    • Player Group - Add (Owner of (Researching unit)) to HasCorruption
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units owned by (Owner of (Researching unit))) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (Unit-type of (Picked unit)) Equal to Witch Slayer
          • Then - Actions
            • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
              • If - Conditions
                • ((Owner of (Researching unit)) is in HasPurification) Equal to True
              • Then - Actions
                • Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Witch Slayer Divine Chaos using The new unit's max life and mana
                • Hero - Set (Last created unit) experience to (Hero experience of (Last replaced unit)), Hide level-up graphics
                • Hero - Modify unspent skill points of (Last created unit): Add (Level of (Last replaced unit)) points
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 1) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 6) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 5) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 4) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 3) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 2) to (Last created unit)
              • Else - Actions
                • Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Witch Slayer Chaos using The new unit's max life and mana
                • Hero - Set (Last created unit) experience to (Hero experience of (Last replaced unit)), Hide level-up graphics
                • Hero - Modify unspent skill points of (Last created unit): Add (Level of (Last replaced unit)) points
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 6) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 1) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 5) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 4) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 3) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 2) to (Last created unit)
          • Else - Actions
            • Do nothing

Please note that I have another upgrade (Purification) that changes the hero defense type to divine. When the defense type "changes" (not working), the player owner of the changed hero will be added to HasPurification group, and vice-versa with the HasCorruption group.

 

[Tinker]

Well I prefered to use the replacing hero method.

If you do your way then i wont help you anymore sry.

 

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If you do your way then i wont help you anymore sry.

Well Tinker, you don't want to answer my questions about your method (and I'm pretty sure you can easily answer). Now you can't simply tell me what is wrong about my trigger (and I'm pretty sure you can easily tell me) just because I didn't pick your method? That's not right man. Why so serious? No madness, as you said.

 

[Tinker]

Well Tinker, you don't want to answer my questions about your method (and I'm pretty sure you can easily answer). Now you can't simply tell me what is wrong about my trigger (and I'm pretty sure you can easily tell me) just because I didn't pick your method? That's not right man. Why so serious? No madness, as you said.

Replacing a hero is hell difficult and can cause lots of bugs/problems.

1. The attribute bonus damage still works if I change to Attak 2?
2. My hero has feedback ability, if I anulate Attack 1 I think feedback will stop working because it just works for Attack 1. Is that right?

I didnt try them out myself also you were too lazy for...

1. Damage bonus should still work...
2. Feedback should still work...

 

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Replacing a hero is hell difficult and can cause lots of bugs/problems.



I didnt try them out myself also you were too lazy for...

1. Damage bonus should still work...
2. Feedback should still work...

Ok, I will try it out. But still, using this method, I won't be able to make the Purification upgrade, which changes hero's defense type to Divine, because there is not an item ability or something that changes the hero defense type. Do you have any suggestions or you want to help me with the trigger?

 

[Tinker]

Well I prefered to use the replacing hero method. Now I made the trigger and it didn't work. Can someone explain to me what is wrong, please?

• Upgrade Corruption
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Finishes an upgrade
  • Conditions
    • (Researched tech-type) Equal to Corruption
  • Actions
    • Player Group - Add (Owner of (Researching unit)) to HasCorruption
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units owned by (Owner of (Researching unit))) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (Unit-type of (Picked unit)) Equal to Witch Slayer
          • Then - Actions
            • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
              • If - Conditions
                • ((Owner of (Researching unit)) is in HasPurification) Equal to True
              • Then - Actions
                • Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Witch Slayer Divine Chaos using The new unit's max life and mana
                • Hero - Set (Last created unit) experience to (Hero experience of (Last replaced unit)), Hide level-up graphics
                • Hero - Modify unspent skill points of (Last created unit): Add (Level of (Last replaced unit)) points
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 1) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 6) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 5) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 4) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 3) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 2) to (Last created unit)
              • Else - Actions
                • Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Witch Slayer Chaos using The new unit's max life and mana
                • Hero - Set (Last created unit) experience to (Hero experience of (Last replaced unit)), Hide level-up graphics
                • Hero - Modify unspent skill points of (Last created unit): Add (Level of (Last replaced unit)) points
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 6) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 1) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 5) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 4) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 3) to (Last created unit)
                • Hero - Give (Item carried by (Last replaced unit) in slot 2) to (Last created unit)
          • Else - Actions
            • Do nothing

Please note that I have another upgrade (Purification) that changes the hero defense type to divine. When the defense type "changes" (not working), the player owner of the changed hero will be added to HasPurification group, and vice-versa with the HasCorruption group.

What exactly isnt working in there? Also for change divine armor you just have to change it from the new replaced hero, you cant change hero armors with upgrades.

Also dont use "New units max life and mana" if you want a properly replace then use old's relative max life and mana.

 

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What exactly isnt working in there? Also for change divine armor you just have to change it from the new replaced hero, you cant change hero armors with upgrades.

Also dont use "New units max life and mana" if you want a properly replace then use old's relative max life and mana.

I don't think you get it, I didn't try to change the hero armor with upgrades, I have another trigger exactly as this one, that adds the player to HasPurification, so I can make this condition: ((Owner of (Researching unit)) is in HasPurification) Equal to True. Then if the player has upgraded Purification, the hero will already have been replaced to a Witch Slayer Divine, so in Then - Actions I would replace the hero to a Witch Slayer Divine Chaos, and if the player has not upgraded Purification, the Else - Actions would activate, replacing the hero to a Witch Slayer Chaos, without Divine armor.
Sorry for not being too clear, it's hard to explain and my main language is not English.

What isn't working in the trigger: The hero doesn't replace. When I finish the upgrade, nothing happens, just appears on the screen: Upgrade complete: Corruption (or Purification).

 

[Inflicted]

Sorry if I missed something, I kinda speed-read most of the posts after the OP, may I ask:
-Why do you want it to be a chaos attack? Just for the look, or the effectiveness of the Chaos attack? Perhaps we can suggest an alternative.

Before you say the ability is overpowered, I say it is an ultimate (yes, in my game ultimates have 4 levels).

Can't say it's overpowered until we see other abilities. For all I know your hero's could have 10 000 hit points, or 10 each.
Just saying ;P

edit:
oh, and as said before. Try avoid 'replacing' the hero's, in most cases. This can cause many problems involving your custom triggers and abilities.

 

[vypur85]

If you want to replace hero, use either the Chaos ability inside the Object Editor. Add the ability to the said unit using that ability and the unit will be replaced to your desired hero.

Alternatively, use morphing abilities like Bear Form etc. This will mean your hero can morph though.

Using replace unit via trigger does not work so well. However, it should retain level, experience and items. Learned ability will not be retained though. And the shortcut key for the unit will be forgotten. Then again, I can't be sure if what I said is 100% true. It's been a long time since I used replace unit.

 

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-Why do you want it to be a chaos attack? Just for the look, or the effectiveness of the Chaos attack? Perhaps we can suggest an alternative.

I wanted it to be a chaos attack for the effectiveness of the Chaos attack, not for the look o-o

If you want to replace hero, use either the Chaos ability inside the Object Editor. Add the ability to the said unit using that ability and the unit will be replaced to your desired hero.

Alternatively, use morphing abilities like Bear Form etc. This will mean your hero can morph though.

Using replace unit via trigger does not work so well. However, it should retain level, experience and items. Learned ability will not be retained though. And the shortcut key for the unit will be forgotten. Then again, I can't be sure if what I said is 100% true. It's been a long time since I used replace unit.

Well, I don't want trouble. I have an upgrade house that adds to units armor, damage, regeneration's, increases units max hit and mana points, and I wanted something different. But I understand that it is hard to make what I want and I will forget this. I don't want my hero to have additional skills, he's skill slots are already full haha. Thanks for the attention to everyone!
Oh, and about the "Passive ability icon not showing", I already solved that, I made a dummy ability for tooltips.

 

[Inflicted]

Why not just do some sort of attack with additional damage, rather than Chaos attack? It would make life alot easier.

 

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Why not just do some sort of attack with additional damage, rather than Chaos attack? It would make life alot easier.

Sure, that's a lot easier. I was trying to make this Chaos and Divine system because Divine armor only takes damage from Chaos, so if a player has divine upgrade, the others would be forced to upgrade to Chaos. Also, Chaos does 100% attack to all types of armor, and that's great