Varine: I wonder if they would give me another raise if I quit again... KMilz: There would have to be something that happened that could be considered a legit 'last straw' for them to do it again so soon. Then again, on the one hand you could be making more money, and on the other you could be done with that shitty place for good, so maybe it's worth the risk KMilz: i don't know KMilz: I'm not a doctor. Varine: Dude, I've had last straws for a fucking year. Today was well beyond, I'm done. Varine: I'm going back to Portland in a couple weeks, I'm just done here, Varine: It's not even a risk, I can make more money anywhere, I've been trying to make this place work because I'm tired of jumping between jobs all the time, I want to actually settle, get a real girlfriend and have a family someday. But this place, never in the years I've been running kitchens have I had to deal with so much bullshit and stress over nothing. Varine: I mean I don't even care about money, I'm not desperate for the paycheck. I can make half of what I do here and be fine, which isn't even a concern because this is lower than I've been paid in like four years. I just can't do this, I'm amazed this place runs at all. It'll be bankrupt next year the way it's going anyway. Varine: And without me it'll probably be sooner. They're not going to find a new chef that'll put up with I did for less pay, unless they totally fucking blow. I was desperate when I came here, and I was lied to from my first interview. And I hope they fail, as terrible as it is I really hope they do. These people don't deserve to succeed, this is the worst place I have worked at in my life. Varine: I would take McDonalds over this. At least there they have an excuse to be a pile of shit. I feel almost worthless because I spent a year here, working my ass off trying to fix their problems, for nothing. Varine: I'm done cooking. I don't want to be a chef anymore after here, I'm just done. Everything I gave up to try and make this work.... it means nothing, it was for nothing, I just wasted my life.. I could have been in school, or at least studying on my own, but no. I literally just wasted my life. I was stupid enough to stay, put up with their shit, so I guess I deserve it, at least. But still, Varine: I just can't believe I wasted this much of my life. Accname: yeah, classic Accname: thats the nice thing about not working at all Accname: I mean, I work officially, but ... KMilz: Yeah, restaurants suck. You don't need any experience or qualifications to work as most positions in most restaurants, so you're practically guaranteed to have an entirely incompetent group of people to work alongside. throw in a couple of people that decided one day that it'd be a good idea to open up a restaurant without knowing what the fuck they're doing and you've got a sure recipe for succes thewrongvine: lol. Life sure does suck. Varine: Whatever. They're problem now. KMilz: is ur life still a clusterfuck, thewrongvine? KMilz: have u gotten ur shit back on track yet? thewrongvine: nope, its gotten worse thewrongvine: my flight to LA is this coming friday, 5 days from now. thewrongvine: but landlord rejected my roommate and I, our rental applications thewrongvine: so we still have no place to live. And we have 5 days to find a place. Varine: I did that once. I had to live in a hotel for two months. KMilz: consider buying a cheap, used r/v for about 2 grand or so. You should be able to find used ones in that range that run but look like shit. easy to fix up mostly. makes you mobile, keeps the monthly bills down and gives you something to sell when you go to actually settle down someplace. if you find it for the right price, chances are you can get the same out of it a few years down the line thewrongvine: I dunno if I can do that ha thewrongvine: hotel 2 months? wouldnt that be costly? Varine: 200 to 300 a week at the cheaper ones, I was at a Super 8 or some cheap shit. But no power or Internet, so it wasn't THAT bad, but it fucking sucks living a hotel. Varine: I mean you don't pay for it. They obviously had power and Internet. That was in Phoenix though, I'd imagine you could find a fairly cheap hotel with weekly rates in LA as well. Varine: It's a lot easier when you have your shit planned out better. Like I've got six applications in for houses in Portland, one of them will pass me before I leave, couple months from now Varine: If they all do then I pick what one I want and pay my deposit to hold it till I leave Varine: You'd be looking at 800-1200 a month probably, so it's not like it's very much higher once you add in power, considering how hot LA is you've got AC to run, plus city level rent. You're already going to pay 800 a month for a decent place in LA probably, another 100 or 200 in power, then you've got water, Internet, cable, whatever utilities you need. Varine: So it comes out pretty even all considering. Higher, but a hell of a lot better than an RV or the street (because believe me, streets are not fun). Varine: Neither are RV's, that shit'll be broken into every night in LA. Varine: According to the first website I went to, average rent in LA is 2000 for one bedroom. Which is significantly higher than Phoenix (that's what I was paying in NYC, and I lived in Manhattan, I didn't think it was that high in LA) Varine: Some of these hotels have monthly rates too. I would look up Motel 6, Super 8, etc, see if any of the ones near wherever you need to be have extended stay discounts. Hit up citydata or something, I know there are hotels there that'll cut your rate in half if you're going to be there for a while. It's better for them to ensure the room is booked than not. Varine: Once you hit week/monthly, they will usually drop it significantly. I've found hotels to live in for a few weeks for like 500 bucks. Varine: Plus cities like that usually have short term 'apartments' that are designed for people to stay in for a few weeks at least, rather than days, that's where I lived after the hotel, I think they charged me like 800 a month, but it was furnished to live in. Varine: Harder to find, but they're around. Varine: I'll see if I can find a few places that are affordable if I get some time to do anything. jonas: so I've been in SF for the first time some weeks ago jonas: So many homeless jonas: It's saddening jonas: Some of them lost their families, many handicapped too, some lost their jobs and don't have enough money to leave the place jonas: Soon you'll be one of them jonas: One of them got robbed four times while he was asleep - they took everything, shoes, bags, wallet with ID and birth certificate Accname: How does he know it was 4 times if he was asleep? Varine: He should be happy the police didn't shoot him for being homeless. Varine: Did you know that's illegal now? Varine: Good thing - nothing I hate more than someone driven to begging for survival. What worthless pieces of shit, I can't believe they can sleep on the sidewalk I have to PAY for, over the air vent I have to PAY for, while getting harassed by the people I pay to harass me and my friends! Varine: All the while they just EXPECT me to give them money so they can get fucked up and forget about how much THEIR life sucks! I mean, fuck, I just want to go to my house so I can be warm and comfortable without being bothered with the reality that other people are poor as fuck. I mean, WTF government? Get my tax dollars to work and get these homeless people the fuck off my roads and sidewalks! jonas: @Accname the nights he was robbed were pairwise distinct, I presume Varine: I didn't pay for that bridge so they could sleep under it Varine: Maybe he should fucking stay awake and he wouldn't be robbed. Where are the police to kill this complainer? Varine: I'm not paying 45 percent taxes for nothing. jonas: You mean, if there wouldn't be all of those tax loopholes that you're using, the 45% you'd had to pay wouldn't be for nothing jonas: In reality you pay about 15% jonas: *you would have had to pay wouldn't have been? jonas: I'm pretty bad at grammar with conditionals Varine: I don't know what the fuck you're trying to say Varine: I definately am not only paying 15 percent. Do I look Monsanto? Varine: Being a single male with no dependents that owns property and doesn't gamble with a college education, there are very few loopholes. I've checked. jonas: I actually took the 15% figure from Romney. I wasn't expecting you to pay 45% tax (in relation to your income I assume?). Are you counting sales tax or how are you getting such a figure? Including sales tax I pay about 45% jonas: and health care etc. Varine: Last year I paid 35 percent directly out of my check in straight income tax, plus another five percent on my savings account, as well property taxes, and still owed money when I did them. Montana doesn't have sales tax, and that happens to be where I live now Varine: Realistically I'm probably at about 50%, if not higher. Varine: I haven't sat there and actually added it all up, but it's somewhere around there. Varine: The anecdote I like to give is, as we all recall the American Revolution was largely inspired by unfair taxation. Washington DC is almost (not quite, but I think pretty close) to the distance from Seattle, as New York is to England Varine: The tax rate was, at the time, 15 percent at best, On average it was about 5 I think, Varine: And really I know the revolution was over rights really, but we didn't throw tea into the bay as a statement of unfair rights. It was taxes. Varine: I also find it funny that we say Baltimore is just an unruly riot of people destroying their own shit Varine: "Why did they throw their own tea overboard?" Said no history book ever jonas: :D Accname: is it complain monday already? KMilz: I know this is out of context, but if you crazy if you think a shitty R/V will be broken into by anyone. people break into things to get stuff, not to walk away empty-handed KMilz: the people destroying their own shit were not being activists. they were taking advantage of a wild situation and being destructive for the sake of fucking shit up. it was fun for them. it looked fun from here. comparing that and the boston tea party is straight apples and oranges, man KMilz: i mean, really. i watched a fire hose cut get as it was in use putting out a fire. Fun stuff, but you're not trying to help anyone by doing that, and you're not trying to make a positive difference in your community. KMilz: get cut* Varine: Have you BEEN to LA? People will break into that shit. thewrongvine: Too much has been said thewrongvine: I must've missed the previous responses to my messages thewrongvine: so I have no idea what's going on KMilz: yeah, maybe. havent been so i cant say, but where I'm from, criminals try to get stuff when they're robbing people thewrongvine: what happened after I said Idka bout teh TV thewrongvine: RV KMilz: u can scroll up thewrongvine: and yeah, LA is terrible. If you look at a crime map. Where green is good. And red is bad. The entire LA is just blood red. KMilz: dont worry, iforgot about that function, too thewrongvine: I did lol KMilz: haha, o KMilz: he said it would be broken into more than a nicer living place and i disagreed. not having been to LA, tho, i cant make a good judgement on that thewrongvine: okay you made me go to the shoutbox page individually to see more scrolled up lol thewrongvine: okay, yeah. LA sucks and is filled with crime. I've considered mobile living though, like with a car too KMilz: he makes a good argument on the hotels n shit vs apartment renting, tho KMilz: i dont usually consider the cost of utilities when im thinking about how expensive motels are thewrongvine: but we'll see. Currently housing-wise I have a friend who's gonna be my roommate, so we aim to split a 1 bedroom. So while usually one person pays $1500-2000 for an apartment. We will just split a CHEAP apartment, like 1200, so we pay 600 each. lol thewrongvine: it's just hard finding a place, most landlords reject students KMilz: but after having spent 4 years renting an apartment and paying more for it in that time than the house i now own plus the costs to get it in decent shape, i hate the idea of paying out money for a place and getting nothing tangible in return KMilz: but yeah, that's cool. do u know ur roomate yet? KMilz: well, that is* thewrongvine: not personally but he's my friend's friend so he hooked us up. We've been talking for the past few weeks through calls and messages and whatnot KMilz: cool, just be careful thewrongvine: but yeh, we have 5 days now to find a place. KMilz: i hooked two of my best friends up to be each others' roommates. id lived with the one for 2 years and friends with him for 7, and id known the other since kindgergarten. the one i lived with bailed on my other friend, owing him $1500 and stealing his pot brownies before just disappearing KMilz: so even if u think u know a guy... KMilz: just be ready for some bulshit, man Accname: you muricans are funny people KMilz: it wasnt very funny, man thewrongvine: lol thewrongvine: my friend was rooommates with him so he vouches for him thewrongvine: don't make me more paranoid haha