Taylor Swift <3

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Yeah, but still... She's this cute little country-singing girl. How can you really HATE her?!

Yeah but still, there are much better female county singers out there. The only reason they aren't famous is because they haven whored themselves out to Disney.
 

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That's such a bullshit reason to hate someone. Every star is out for money. That's why they do what they do. If a singer didn't want money, they'd give away free shows.

Disney wanted Taylor, not another "better" girl country singer. That's her fault why?
 

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Yeah, but still... She's this cute little country-singing girl. How can you really HATE her?!

Yeah but still, there are much better female county singers out there. The only reason they aren't famous is because they haven whored themselves out to Disney.

Well if you are musical and someone offers you a massive whopping pay check, the possibility to tour, you are going to accept.

While I don't have a lot of musical respect for her, as a person she appears to be friendly/modest/good things Disney endorses, and I think too many people mix the two things. Those two being quality of person VS quality of music.
 

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I kinda like her songs, but they're overrated... They're on the radio like all the time <.<
 

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That's such a bullshit reason to hate someone. Every star is out for money. That's why they do what they do. If a singer didn't want money, they'd give away free shows.

Well, I think the reason she when with Disney was out of fright. If you had any self belief you would hold out till you could get a real label behind you.

Disney wanted Taylor, not another "better" girl country singer. That's her fault why?

Because she's cuter. It the same reason they have the Jonas Brothers and Cyrus.

Video killed the radio star.

Well if you are musical and someone offers you a massive whopping pay check, the possibility to tour, you are going to accept.

While I don't have a lot of musical respect for her, as a person she appears to be friendly/modest/good things Disney endorses, and I think too many people mix the two things. Those two being quality of person VS quality of music.

I think she's a wonderful person and frankly I don't care. This thread is about her music. I hate her music. Not the person.

I give her two years before the next 'big thing" comes along.

LOL does anyone remember Fall out Boy?

Anyone remember Nsync?

You guys remember Led Zeppelin? Remember The Rolling Stones?

Crap like this comes and goes. A truly talented band will still be popular in 20 years once their looks dry up.
 

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Well, I think the reason she when with Disney was out of fright. If you had any self belief you would hold out till you could get a real label behind you.

oh yeah sure you would.. lets wait another 20 years before someone come looking for you? And whats a "real label".

Because she's cuter. It the same reason they have the Jonas Brothers and Cyrus.

Video killed the radio star.

Its how the world works today. Quite frankly if your hot and can sing your gonna be big.

I give her two years before the next 'big thing" comes along.

LOL does anyone remember Fall out Boy?

Anyone remember Nsync?

You guys remember Led Zeppelin? Remember The Rolling Stones?

I remember the Fall out Boys, i remember Nsync and still listen to them if my mp4 shuffles to their song.
On the other hand, im not into rock so I've basically never heard of Led Zeppelin or The Rolling Stones.
Funny you didn't even mention the Beatles.

Crap like this comes and goes. A truly talented band will still be popular in 20 years once their looks dry up.

I totally respect the talents of the bands in the past.
But what you calling "crap" is topping charts multiple times and she produced the entire album herself.
Taylor Swift is 19, how can you predict what will happen in her upcoming years?
 

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people have their opinions. however. i do not want to be listening to anything created by the teens of this age. Although. im very surprised to find out some guys like her.
 

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Taylor Swift is 19, how can you predict what will happen in her upcoming years?

People Age.

I didn't mention the Beatles, because if you haven't heard of the them, you seriously need to reconsider your life.

oh yeah sure you would.. lets wait another 20 years before someone come looking for you? And whats a "real label".

Any label willing to hire ugly people with real talent.

Its how the world works today. Quite frankly if your hot and can sing your gonna be big.

This is the number one thing that pisses me off about the music industry. You don't need to play good (any) music. You can throw a bass loop some drum pattern and fake guitar together. That's techno though, I like techno. The people making the music don't get payed that much, it's the person that stands there and looks pretty. They don't even need to sing ever hear of a program called auto-tune?

It doesn't even need to the Fake/T-Pain sounding effect. You can just use pitch correction, and I think that's cheating, just like lip syncing. Real bands shouldn't make there good in post production, they should make it good when they record it.

Music is an auditory medium. You shouldn't need to have perfect skin, or a shaped body or even great dental hygiene. I listen to you with my ear buds, I don't care how the singer/band looks. People need to understand this. It's the same way trying to put a song into a book is retarded. You can't listen to text, you can't watch music (Waveforms do not count). It seems as if people have forgotten this.

If you want to look at someone buy a god dammed poster. If you want to listen to someone, care about their music, not their face.

This is why mass media is stupid.

End of story.
 

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It doesn't even need to the Fake/T-Pain sounding effect. You can just use pitch correction, and I think that's cheating, just like lip syncing. Real bands shouldn't make there good in post production, they should make it good when they record it.

Pitch correction and "T-Pain effect" are the same thing.

Graphical editing is what gets used most often to clean things up, and as far as I can tell, (from the few songs I've gone over), Taylor Swift is not being heavily modulated in that reguard.

While I don't think she's a phenomenal singer, she is above most pop stars in that area.

nerds make better music then everyone else. people know that.

And now your calling me a nerd. :rolleyes:

Elder take more time thinking about what your going to type before pounding the "Post!" button. :p
 

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I think Taylor Swift is the bitterest teenager poet that I know. If she's anything like the person she is on stage, we could have a pleasant conversation about the idealism of mankind, but I'd still hate everything she endorses.
 

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Pitch correction and "T-Pain effect" are the same thing.

Graphical editing is what gets used most often to clean things up, and as far as I can tell, (from the few songs I've gone over), Taylor Swift is not being heavily modulated in that reguard.

While I don't think she's a phenomenal singer, she is above most pop stars in that area.



And now your calling me a nerd. :rolleyes:

Elder take more time thinking about what your going to type before pounding the "Post!" button. :p

But i love nerds :(
 

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nerds make better music then everyone else. people know that.

What. No. Not at all. You do not have the power to understand how Music works and so you have made the assumption that to be good at music you must be 'prosecuted due to Intelligence'. I don`t care if it was a joke, it's so horrible that I have to post this.

Anyway, Taylor also got a meme.

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let me point something out.

People LIKE her. Ok? Yes, its true. And what does that mean? It means that she makes good music (im not sure what the definition of 'good' is. because people have their opinions, no matter what it is) and. A person has to respect her for that. You can hate every fiber of her being, but you cant deny the fact that people like her, and that she is young.

Im not sure whats going to happen. Shes only 19. (again, that surprises me)

And that kanye west thing was an add-on, which i would have never known about, if i didnt log onto youtube.
Take Ninva, he doesnt like her. And.. what happens? Is a person going to get on him because he has an opinion? No (you shouldnt :p)
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Take school, some people hate it (ok, a lot of kids hate it) but lets move on to the point.
You could dislike your teacher as a person, i mean like WITH A VENGEANCE, but that does not give a person the right to disrespect the teacher (their position of authority)
 

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Elderkingpin

Clearly you have not read what I've said. I don't hate Taylor Swift. I hate her music and what her music stands for.

Jonas Brothers are popular and their just about as far from good music as you can get.
 

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Elderkingpin

Clearly you have not read what I've said. I don't hate Taylor Swift. I hate her music and what her music stands for.

Jonas Brothers are popular and their just about as far from good music as you can get.

According to you.

When are people going to learn that music is subjective? There's no such thing as bad music just as there's no such thing as good music. It's all relative.

Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with signing to Disney. Saying no to them is saying no to a butt load of cash. Disney is a real label because Disney musicians make a killing.
 

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According to you.

When are people going to learn that music is subjective? There's no such thing as bad music just as there's no such thing as good music. It's all relative.

Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with signing to Disney. Saying no to them is saying no to a butt load of cash. Disney is a real label because Disney musicians make a killing.

When will people learn that using auto-tune and a "cute" image doesn't count as music at all.
 

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When will people learn that using auto-tune and a "cute" image doesn't count as music at all.

music isnt just about the actual music, all the packaging around music is important too, actually its probably the most important one.
Auto tune is a technology, i use it, i dont use it to actually tune of voice to the proper note but i use it for its effects when sung into.

What i think is, when will you realize the trend of music today, and the technology its using. Because your stuck in the past, and music today aint what it was 30 years ago. Theres nothing wrong with autotune, theres nothing wrong with being cute, but im pretty sure either T-Pain or Taylor swift have more musical talent than you will ever have.
 
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