GUI vs Galaxy

[Lobster]

Other than being typed faster, what advantages does Galaxy have over gui? or did blizzard use a complete function list in gui?

 

[tom_mai78101]

Please wait until the RTM edition is out.

 

[Lyerae]

Well, typing ia faster than clicking, and with Galaxy (and JASS too), you have much more control over your code.

 

[tom_mai78101]

What if you can type but don't know what to type?

So, before anyone learns what to type, clicking is faster (because anyone can read it).

Boldfaced to emphasize the uniqueness of GUI.

 

[Lyerae]

I personally can't read GUI. I tend to avoid it as much as possible.

 

[rover2341]

Thoughts about world editor GUI:

My biggest 3 reasons I left the world editor.
1.No 2D Arrays. Had to fake it in every line of code. Was a pain.

2.No private variables

3.No Classes, vJass offers.

Encapsulation With classes were very helpful.

Beyond that I personally don't have much of in issue with it with the world editor. I still clicking alot with vJass.

My Point:
Galaxy allows the same things in GUI as its Jass. Personally I am more a custom to the typing it out now, And I think it may be possible to do structs in jass and not in the GUI. if thats the case, Ill stick to the jass, If not, Its a toss up for me, as I Code almost as fast in the gui.

 

[tom_mai78101]

Thoughts about world editor GUI:

My biggest 3 reasons I left the world editor.
1.No 2D Arrays. Had to fake it in every line of code. Was a pain.

2.No private variables

3.No Classes, vJass offers.

Encapsulation With classes were very helpful.

Beyond that I personally don't have much of in issue with it with the world editor. I still clicking alot with vJass.

My Point:
Galaxy allows the same things in GUI as its Jass. Personally I am more a custom to the typing it out now, And I think it may be possible to do structs in jass and not in the GUI. if thats the case, Ill stick to the jass, If not, Its a toss up for me, as I Code almost as fast in the gui.

Um...those are not Galaxy.

 

[Joker(Div)]

Coding:
- Flexibility
- More control
- Easier to maintain

GUI:
- Noob-friendly
- Less thinking
- Simple

 

[Andyoyo]

So the sc2 beta is coming with an early version of galaxy edit too? We can already start map developing? I really need this question answered.

I've signed up for a beta key and am patiently awaiting the next batch

 

[Lyerae]

The editor hasn't been released yet...

 

[tom_mai78101]

So the sc2 beta is coming with an early version of galaxy edit too? We can already start map developing? I really need this question answered.

I've signed up for a beta key and am patiently awaiting the next batch

You won't be seeing the editor any time soon, even after you have received the beta key.

The editor will only be included when you have purchased the retailed version, which you'll be seeing it on the shelves no later than December 2010. (Release Date < December 2010, don't forget...)

 

[SerraAvenger]

Coding:
- Flexibility
- More control
- Easier to maintain

GUI:
- Noob-friendly
- Simple

agree, but...

GUI:
 + Less thinking about what
 - More thinking about how

Coding:
 - More thinking about what
 + Less thinking about how

 

[Romek]

The editor will only be included when you have purchased the retailed version, which you'll be seeing it on the shelves no later than December 2010. (Release Date < December 2010, don't forget...)

...When did you get a job at Blizzard's HQ?

Besides that, assuming Sc2's GUI will be flawless in terms of the conversion to Galaxy; I still prefer coding syntax and typing, over full sentences and clicking.

 

[Bloodcount]

>The editor will only be included when you have purchased the retailed version

What the hell are you talking about ? Does this mean no editor in the beta :S ;( damn....

 

[sqrage]

>The editor will only be included when you have purchased the retailed version

What the hell are you talking about ? Does this mean no editor in the beta :S ;( damn....

Pretty much. They said it most likely wont come with the beta since they are looking at a short beta.

 

[tom_mai78101]

...When did you get a job at Blizzard's HQ?

Besides that, assuming Sc2's GUI will be flawless in terms of the conversion to Galaxy; I still prefer coding syntax and typing, over full sentences and clicking.

We do know in some way by others in Battle.net community:

Since beta is out, calculate the usual time given by developers to start balancing:

3 ~ 5 months. We believed it will be out somewhere near the mid-Summer to anywhere in Fall of 2010.

 

[EpicFlux]

I'm almost positive that Beta will include the Galaxy Editor. Of course blizzard has no reason to release it since it's just an editor and has nothing to do with balancing. Either way I bet they will come out with some form of it. Or atleast hint on it some more like they have been.

 

[Orgasm]

I'm almost positive that Beta will include the Galaxy Editor. Of course blizzard has no reason to release it since it's just an editor and has nothing to do with balancing. Either way I bet they will come out with some form of it. Or atleast hint on it some more like they have been.

They shouldn't have to release the editor with beta either since well, the editor all it really is: a syntax checker, terrain editor, and compiler (SC2 Environment). They're already customizing StarCraft 2 with it and it's working. No need to test it.

 

[jhnam95]

I'm hoping to get the WHAT to type down before galaxy comes out. I'm still struggling to translate my GUI knowledge to JASS :\

 

[Ice Bane]

They shouldn't have to release the editor with beta either since well, the editor all it really is: a syntax checker, terrain editor, and compiler (SC2 Environment). They're already customizing StarCraft 2 with it and it's working. No need to test it.

That really is untrue, ofc it needs testing, I am extremly confident that our thousands of modders could provide blizzard with feedback about how features can be improved, where things leak and so on.

The things Blizzard are using the editor for are not like many of projects that will appear when the Galaxy Edit releases, thousands modders will find flaws a lot faster than Blizzard.