As Basic as it gets

[Guilo]

I don't know how many times I've asked this question in the past and it just seems to keep slipping my mind. I think im pretty close to making it happen, but it just doesn't roll.

I want all units in region 000 to attackmove to region 001 after 13.5 game time seconds have passed.

 

[Shadowy Fear]

I don't know how many times I've asked this question in the past and it just seems to keep slipping my mind.

... If you have asked this question before, then just go search for those threads Lol!

Or just browse through the GUI

E: Elapsed game time = 13.5 seconds
C: [specify here]
A: Pick every unit in [region 000] and order picked unit to attack-move to [region 001]

 

[NoxMortus]

Umm, have you tried making the trigger? you've practically just typed up the trigger in your question, hehe, but here it is:

Attack-move
    Events
        Time - Elapsed game time is 13.50 seconds
    Conditions
    Actions
        Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units in Rect 000 <gen>) and do (Actions)
            Loop - Actions
                Unit - Order (Picked unit) to Attack-Move To (Center of Rect 001 <gen>)

Edit~

Oh Shadowy beat me to it, hehe.

 

[Corum]

Yay! This is exactly the question I wanted to ask, in fact its the only trigger I want to use over and over in my map. I'm amazed the tutorials don't mention this, but do have a trigger to res heroes instead..

I want a map where, at intervals, groups of creeps come to kill the player. The trigger editor is a bit confusing at first, I hoped the frozen throne upgrade would add a wizard which knew that this was the most obvious event (heck, Blizzard have 12 of them in every mission they have).

Some of these replies show a structured block of code, which makes it look like you can program it, except you can't just paste that in, you need to specify units.

Here is what I learned so far. Please note a step by step thing is helpful for people who aren't familiar with making maps... the people who are familiar, aren't asking this question.

1) Put your player start on the map, and some groups of enemy units where you want them to set off from.
2) Put in a region for each group of creeps, and name them something like patrol1, patrol2, etc. to refer to later.
3) Make another region for where the player is.
4) Do a trigger as the other replies say in this thread.

Note: I tested this, and the creep came and attacked my starting heroes, then after 5 seconds, ran back. This is because creeps run back after 5 seconds outside their patrol area. I don't know how to fix this.

More expert replies appreciated please.

 

[Corum]

If anyone is following this, I've got a little closer, but we also need some detail in the proper tutorial explaining about the Loop and Picked Unit - took me ages to see that I should select "Picked Unit" at some point. Hope thats an extra clue for anyone else doing proper triggers.

 

[Corum]

This is still an interesting problem. Really, I'd expect some way to drag-select a group of creeps and say "at time=30 secs, move to (click)" and thats it.

However, even with all the detail above, my test had 4 creeps supposed to come kill the heroes in player region. However, they didnt set off, and even after I pulled them, they broke off after some fighting and went home. Grr.

Please help.

 

[Corum]

Seriously, it finally worked but only works when you select one unit and specify it, and it *still* runs home after 5 seconds.

 

[Ragnar]

Quadruple post = bad. Don't do it, just edit your post.

And if you're a guest and can't do that, why not register?

I'm messing with this myself, and decided just to create the units close to the players, hopefully enough to be in attack range.

 

[xPheRe]

Er...
First of all >THIS< and >THAT< worth a visit

Then, if you want your creeps to not retreat to their 'base', you need to do something like this

Event
    Map initialization
Conditions
    None
Actions
    Pick every unit in <Creep base> from <Neutral Hostile> and do
        AI - Ignore <Picked unit>'s guard position

And one more thing... next time would be a great idea to register in TheHelper.
Why? Because this way you can edit your posts and also people will be more helpful with you.

I hope it helped

 

[NoxMortus]

Isn't the creep guard range and duration things in Gameplay Constants? I'm sure I've seen them in there..

 

[Guilo]

Thanks

Thanks guys for the trigger help.

 

[Corum]

By the way, I did read the "read this before posting" and other links. I also think posting again with new information is better than editing, otherwise it messes with the meaning of the thread for other people to read. And I followed all the guidelines about posting. And the tutorials don't explain step by step how to do this.

I got it working now anyway. The important thing I missed, for anyone following this and who wants to make it work properly, is that the Action to move the units needs to be inset more than the "Loop" bit, to make sure it gets done for all the units in the loop. I didn't know that but now it works.

Setting all the units to ignore guard distance didn't work. But editing the game constants so the "Guard Return Distance" was 9999 stopped them running back.

Another useful thing to know, since I didn't, is that there is a location option to specify a player start, so you don't need to make a region to target the player, if that's where the creeps are supposed to go.

Also useful is knowing that a whole trigger can be Copy/Pasted, then tweak it. This is great if, say, you want several groups of creeps to come at the player at different intervals, which is what I want.

Reading the other recent posts too, remember that someone is asking something because they don't know how to do it. There are too many replies like "read the manual" or "just figure out how to do it" etc which aren't helpful.
But now that I know more of the basics, the replies earlier make more sense now, so if I had a more complex question and got the same sort of reply it would help more. Thanks to those people who gave an answer.

Take Care,
Corum.

 

[Guilo]

Waypoints

Hey guys! I have yet another question so I decided to recycle this thread. I'm attempting to have several units move alone waypoints from point a to point b to point c, but once they reach point a, some units just stop and are left behind. Any answers to this? Please respond, I've attached my map ( triggers are messy I've been doing much experimentation) Thanks!

 

[Sargon]

Post your triggers. Then we can see what's wrong.

 

[Sargon]

OK, I figured out what's wrong. For each of your waypoint triggers, change the action to "Order entering unit to move to (the next waypoint)." Obviously, don't make this the action for the trigger that starts the villagers moving in the first place, that one's fine.

 

[Guilo]

Sargon thanks a bunch bud, it still leaves one unit in each of the waypoints but I think I will play arond with it and try and maybe make a backup trigger or something or another. Who knows. Thanks again though it works a lot better.

 

[Guilo]

Just a Bump

Bump

 

[AgentPaper]

can you post your trigger?

 

[Guilo]

I'm pretty sure its on the previous page basically how that person had it set up but once I can finish doing what I need to do I'll pop it up

 

[Guilo]

My trigger for one of the points is:

Events
Unit - A unit enters Way1 <gen>
Conditions
(Owner of (Entering unit)) Equal to Player 10 (Light Blue)
Actions
Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units in Way1 <gen>) and do (Unit - Order (Entering unit) to Move To (Center of Way2 <gen>))