As The Tide Turns

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Well my new map that I'm currently working on is my first massive undertaking of a Warcraft III RPG. And yes, before anyone asks, I do know what I'm doing and almost everything is planned. At the moment I've got the general gameplay ideas as this:
- Choose a race out of Orc, Human, Elf and undead.
- Supports up to six players.
- Many classes including thiefs (With the ability to steal and stun), commandos (With the raw power but lacking in magic), soldiers (An all rounder if there was on) and many others.
- Total playing classes is around 15-30.
- Many quests available.
- Ability to "backstab" friends. This ought to be an interesting feature :p
- Class dependent items. For example commandos can't use magic. Period. No potions or spells or anything. Archers can't use swords, footmen can't use bows, druids/mages/etc can only use daggers. Armour is also dependent so you won't see a mage wearing something like "Flaming Titan Steel Armour". This will play a big part and encourage people to share items.
- Ability to capture towns, though not actually control them. Expanding you influence gives you better quests and reinforcements.
- Large town sieges. Not all out sieges, the outskirts will be the attacking area and as you travel further in shops are still open, etc.

Any more ideas? I'd love to hear them :)

The actual mapping is taking a lot longer than triggers as i wanted to put a fair amount of effort into each area. The first town is still being worked on! Anyway, that's the general idea.

Oh and I'd thought I'd add this here. I'm still wondering if it's possible to create a flood trigger to raise the water to a certain level. And while I'm at it, does anyone know how to add glowing effects to models? Example is: A soldier picks up a flame sword, then the soldier glows orange or red. If he picks up some ice armour to he gets a red and blue glow. Drops the sword loses the red glow? Any ideas of how to do this?
 
Only use daggers/staves/whatever while NOT being able to carry a bow or a sword.

By the way, will you make it so you can only hold 1 staff while, say, being able to hold 2 rings? And, if you have the mind for triggers, you can use Vexorian's awesome multi-screen inventory.
 
Rinpun said:
Only use daggers/staves/whatever while NOT being able to carry a bow or a sword.
Bingo.

By the way, will you make it so you can only hold 1 staff while, say, being able to hold 2 rings? And, if you have the mind for triggers, you can use Vexorian's awesome multi-screen inventory.

Never heard of it. Link please? And yes you'll be able to hold, say, two rings, a stave, some armour and a couple potions at the moment.
 
hmm, for the glows, i guess you could use the glow pack

Events:
Unit - A Unit acquires an item
Conditions:
Item being manipulated equal to fire glow sword
Actions:
Add Special Effect to unit using Glowpackred.mdx

or you could give the fire sword an ability which adds a firey attachment to the unit. (which would automatically take the effect off the unit when he drops, with no triggers)

Oh, and another feature i like the idea of is :

All Daggers have greatly increased attack speeds (+20%) but have greatly decreased attack damage.

All Swords have slightly increased attack speeds (+10%) but have decreased attack damage.

All Axes have slightly decreased attack speeds (-10%) but have increased attack damage.

All Hammers have greatly decreased attack speed (-20%) but large attack damage but have greatly increased attack damage.

And you could fit other weapons like spears, halberds, staves, flails and maces in there too, with different attributes, like a mace would have +12% attack speed
 
I'll probably use a glow pack. Sounds like an easier option. Haven't explored packs in-depth though so are they built in or what?
 
Forgot to mention too, that players will be able to remove abilities to add their own preference. Just for that extra personality.
 
Glow Packs can be found at wc3sear.ch, give me a minute and I will edit this post with the direct link.

Edit - GlowPacks
 
They're builtin to WEU. Forgot exactly how to access them :D
 
Thanks for the help, although I'm still searching for answers to the flood trigger (No hurry mind you). I don't think flooding is even possible.

Edit: I've never actually used WEU.
 
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