Bar help

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  1. Me18

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  2. The Helper

    The Helper Administrator Staff Member

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    Pudding Wrestling :)
     
  3. BrokenX

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    Beer wrestling! Even though that would be very expsensive to make a pool out of beer lol... same with pudding :/

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  4. Me18

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    lol...i thought of bartenders with big boobs...but we cant get none of that...any other good business tricks? Or are we doomed to selling it? :(
     
  5. BrokenX

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    Make some kind of deals buy 10 beers for the price of 20 beers... you never know maybe somebody is dumb enough to fall for it worth a try...

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  6. SD_Ryoko

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    I suppose theres a lot of elements that go into a bar. And It would probobly also depend on what kind of bar it is, and what kind of crowd goes there.

    I might not know much about running and managing a bar, but I do know what kind of bars I like.

    Saggy's - Saggy's in my area is very busy, because its like cheers. Its a mix of younger and older people. But the reason we go there is because everyone knows eachother. Imaging going to a place - where 20 people know you. You can go by yourself if you like. Although, its a pretty dramatic place, he said she said.

    Club 9 - I like this place because its more up scale. While it is still a younger crowd pool hall, its pretty mantained and pretty clean! the tables are in good shape and theres usually one free you can play on. The have like 20, but again its a pool hall. They have karioke on saturdays, and 'hip hop' dj night on friday (which is, the highest attending day. We might wait for 2 hours for a table :( ) Its probobly a nicer place because there are plenty of bouncers, who are really cool, so not much ever happens. Sometimes things start to happen, and its taken care of.

    Stadium Grill - I like this place because its more upscale. The place is virtually new and everyone whos hip in the 20-30 range goes there. They don't have a DJ but they do have speakers and whatnot. Eveyones usually dressed well and you don't see too much trash in there.

    Q21, formerly Rack and Roll: This is another pool hall, but I won't step foot in there. Its the WRONG crowd. All rowdy, more hillbilly guys. This is a younger crowd to - but its the younger crowd on the bad side of the town next to ours. Your almost certain to get in a fight there, and no body is really nice or has any matters. Its really just a shithole. I hate it.

    Most other bars around are older folks (I'm 25). These are the bars that are kinda slow, theres only 4 people in them usually. Not to stereotype, but the full bars seem to be full of younger crowd, around here anyway.

    Theres one older bar that does really really well - Backstreet Cafe. I even go there time to time. But not too many younger peeps. This place has live bands every friday and saturday, usually light rock / classic rock / disco, etc. And tons of seating room. Probobly about 15 tables, and horse shoe shaped bar, 3 pool tables.

    All bars, for whatever reason, seem to be a Pool hall, or sports bar. I don't really care for sports, You'll find me in the pool hall.

    Scores is a place down the road, its a smaller bar with a variety crowd. there big thing is 'Kill The Keg' night. You pay 5 bucks, and they give you a plastic cup. You can get as many refils you want. So you pay 5 bucks to drink all night. Its great ! Now you can spend your money on food and pool :).

    Basically, for me to go to a bar, it needs

    -Beer
    -Pool tables
    -Security
    -Clean place
    -Hip Hop.
     
  7. The Helper

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    Good looking waitresses - not necessarily big boobs. Try changing bartenders - can you give us any more information about the bar? Location? Type of crowd? Current Advertising? The more information you give the better Small Business Helper can help you.
     
  8. tsbhelper

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    Me18,

    Need more information about what type of bar you are talking about, what kind of people used to come to it, what kind of other bars are now competing with it, what they are offering, and so on.

    Preliminarily, it sounds like your grandpa had a lot of customers who were his personal friends. Now that he is gone, the bar just isn't the same so they are staying away. If this is true, then it's not likely there's much you can do to get these friends of his to come back to the bar.

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  9. BrokenX

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    You guys need to shake things up at that bar :p.

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  10. Jindo

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    contests!

    Try getting a stage up and hold a talent contest every so often :D

    ~Jindo
     
  11. Me18

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    Ok...this bar has alot of space. There is the bar...we got 3 pool tables where we hold pool leagues with other bars, then we got a kitchen that makes pretty much normal american food. But i never really see anyone ordering anything. Then when you leave the bar area you got a hole crap load of tables. Again nobody really uses them. Then we got a dance floor and a stage with a big screen t.v. Its a pretty nice place but i cant see why people dont want to come. Its mostly older people that come. But i think we used to be busy cuz we where the only bar in town that had a karioke machine. Now about every bar has one. The compition is new and young. We are old and boring. I have thought and thought about somthing that will spice up this place. Now with this info you guys got any ideas??
     
  12. SD_Ryoko

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    Hmm. Well, as I said. Maybe live bands, ladies nights on thursdays, dj nights.

    Hard part is, say you hired a live band.

    Well, people like that stuff, but whos going to know, and whos going to come? You know?

    Everyone says 'lets check out the new bar' so they automatically get a chance at being popular.

    OH - Foam parties seem to be REAL popular lately.
     
  13. The Helper

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    Also since you are battling new bars you might try a grand reopening with a big barbecue and drink special. You said you had a kitchen try doing food stuff and possibly doing flyers. Have a great happy hour with cheap drinks. Advertise that happy hour on a flyer. My 2 cents.
     
  14. BrokenX

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    I know you won't want to give the bar a makeover, but like maybe fix it up a bit if possible shine things up! Yeah and try a re grand opening after you do some fixing stuffs add some cool stuff in like ... big chairs and stuff like high seats for the drinking area or something...

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  15. tsbhelper

    tsbhelper Small Business Helper Forum Moderator

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    Me18,

    There are lots of things you can do to get more people in your bar. Most of them are going to cost you money up front and won't guarantee that you get more people to come.

    Hiring a band, new waitresses (good looking or big boobs), buying new furniture and fixtures... all of these things will cost a fair amount and won't necessarily guarantee you enough business to even pay for them.

    What you need is people already in your bar. People attract more people. Cars out in front of a bar instead of an empty parking lot... seats filled, people talking and laughing, a busy bartender and a busy waitress.

    You need to drive traffic to your bar, get people inside, drinking and eating.

    Would make the following suggestion. You should start off with things which don't cost you anything unless the people actually do come into the bar. This would include happy hour specials, a coupon for 50% off a meal, or anything that the bar has to offer that doesn't cost you anything if the folks don't come to get it.

    The general idea is to get them to come to the bar because you are offering them (temporarily, at least) a better deal on what they would normally do in a bar/ restaurant, that is... drink and eat. You don't have to give it away, just sell it for enough less than what your competition does to make it a really good deal that people won't pass up.

    If you can figure out the actual cost of something like a particular type of drink, or food, you can reduce the price of these things all the way down to actual cost (the break even point) and use this price for special deals and coupon offers. This way there is no cost involved unless they actually do come to the bar, and you can do this without actually spending any money except for the cost of printing and distributing flyers or coupon offers.

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  16. Me18

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    Foam parties??
     
  17. SD_Ryoko

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    Heh yes

    They have some kind of foam - harmless to people and furnature, because its not really 'wet'

    And the whole place is ... well... a big foam bath - like when you load the laundry too much and it foams over? And guys and gals go in swim suits.

    They have it from time to time in cleveland.
     
  18. Me18

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    Thats a good idea...where can u buy some of this foam?
     

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