buying a new computer

perkeyone

something clever
Reaction score
71
hey guys
my comp from 2000 has finally gone to shit
as described in this thread
so i will likely be getting a new comp here soon.

i heard that building a computer can sometimes be cheaper than buying one prebuilt, and also obviously allows more customization
so i was wondering if you guys could help me pick out good components for my new computer, and by good i mean good overall (power, efficiency, and reasonable price.)
my computer will be used for gaming, homework, and some light programming so the components should cater to those needs.

ps i apologize if this is in the wrong forum
 

Prometheus

Everything is mutable; nothing is sacred
Reaction score
589
Right forum, I suggest a search of this forum with the keywords "build computer", and then post back with what you think. Plenty of info in those threads.
 

perkeyone

something clever
Reaction score
71
well i did a bit of searching and sadly i didnt learn as much as i hoped to.

the threads i looked at referred to specific models of computer components which i am unfamiliar with and i dont really have much of a way to compare and contrast between different components since i am not very knowledgeable when it comes to which brand is better etc.

i understand the basic stuff though.
6gb ram > 3gb ram
but i honestly dont know about things like
dualcore vs quadcore
i have absolutely no clue which give more bang for the buck

hmm i think im going to send ddrtists a pm.
he said he built a pretty good pc for under 800 bucks, excluding the hd.

im sorry i am so unenlightened on this topic, but if i knew anything about this i wouldnt have to ask
 

Prometheus

Everything is mutable; nothing is sacred
Reaction score
589
Glad you took the time to search. Now, the help begins. First thing is first. Budget? What parts do you have right now that you can use on the new computer?
Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor?
 

perkeyone

something clever
Reaction score
71
i have a reasonably new monitor that is a good size (19 inches i think)
and my mouse and keyboard work just fine.

the HD is shot, it was only 32 gig anyways though
the 2 ram cards are only 256k's and pretty old
the i think it has a dvd-rw drive i might keep or at least use as a secondary
and a cd-r drive
it also has a 100mb zip drive which is really buggy

my mom is gonna cover this one i think
i think she is looking to spend less than 1k on it
she was looking on the walmart website at a few comps that were 600ish
but idk her budget for sure.
(i talked to her a little while ago and i think her budget has a little more flex in it than i might have indicated.)

i think if i can come up with two lists
one list of good bang for buck stuff
and another list of slightly cheaper but decent stuff
then i could pick a few things from each to try to come to a price shed be willing to pay.
 
Reaction score
125
Any need for a Motherboard also?
Might want to build him a Intel/Nvidia PC just incase he prefers that over AMD/ATI.
 

Prometheus

Everything is mutable; nothing is sacred
Reaction score
589
I had that nagging feeling I was missing something, thanks.

I really don't think he cares. No offence, but he doesn't seem like the type to be a major tech nerd like some of us. ^^

Motherboard added.
 

Samuraid

Advisor
Reaction score
81
Just a small suggestion, but it would be worth the money to get a Phenom II X3 720 BE (or 710) instead of the old Athlon brisbane chip (which is pretty much obselete). At minimum, get an Athlon Kuma 7000 series dual core.

Also, a 750W PC Power and Cooling PSU is extreme overkill. That build will use 200W-300W peak. Try getting a PC Power and Cooling or Corsair PSU in the 400-500W range instead.

Just some ideas. Take them or leave them as you see fit. :)
 

Prometheus

Everything is mutable; nothing is sacred
Reaction score
589
I figured he could drop the PSU some if need be. As outdated as the dual core is, it's probably all he'll need. Now, if he wants something better it won't be hard to swap it out.
 

perkeyone

something clever
Reaction score
71
wow thats a pretty sweet price

whats this talk about a different processor?
the one that samuraid suggested is actually a buck cheaper lol not that its much of a difference, but if it will preform better then i have no reason not to swap out for it.
i cant tell what will work better

as for the power supply i might downgrade that if i can get away with less
i dont see how that would hurt performance.

the cooling however i might want to keep since it will lengthen the life of my computer so i dont have to replace it again like i am now

ps i am a nerd too, but mostly math
ive only put my toes in the water of tech stuff
 

perkeyone

something clever
Reaction score
71
umm not really except for a thank you =]

i think i might do a little comparison of similarly priced prebuilts

if i find some good ones (determined by what ever limited knowledge i have)
ill link them here and get some comparison feedback
 

DDRtists

ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ ɹǝdns
Reaction score
415
You can get a much better computer, and much cheaper, if you build it rather than buying a prebuilt.
 

Infinity.4Sk

New Member
Reaction score
6
If you use your pc for 'some' gaming and don't really need best performance and features i'd recommend using AMD and ATI instead of Intel and Nvidia, these are usually cheaper than their counterparts.
 

Slapshot136

Divide et impera
Reaction score
471
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • Varine Varine:
    How can you tell the difference between real traffic and indexing or AI generation bots?
  • The Helper The Helper:
    The bots will show up as users online in the forum software but they do not show up in my stats tracking. I am sure there are bots in the stats but the way alot of the bots treat the site do not show up on the stats
  • Varine Varine:
    I want to build a filtration system for my 3d printer, and that shit is so much more complicated than I thought it would be
  • Varine Varine:
    Apparently ABS emits styrene particulates which can be like .2 micrometers, which idk if the VOC detectors I have can even catch that
  • Varine Varine:
    Anyway I need to get some of those sensors and two air pressure sensors installed before an after the filters, which I need to figure out how to calculate the necessary pressure for and I have yet to find anything that tells me how to actually do that, just the cfm ratings
  • Varine Varine:
    And then I have to set up an arduino board to read those sensors, which I also don't know very much about but I have a whole bunch of crash course things for that
  • Varine Varine:
    These sensors are also a lot more than I thought they would be. Like 5 to 10 each, idk why but I assumed they would be like 2 dollars
  • Varine Varine:
    Another issue I'm learning is that a lot of the air quality sensors don't work at very high ambient temperatures. I'm planning on heating this enclosure to like 60C or so, and that's the upper limit of their functionality
  • Varine Varine:
    Although I don't know if I need to actually actively heat it or just let the plate and hotend bring the ambient temp to whatever it will, but even then I need to figure out an exfiltration for hot air. I think I kind of know what to do but it's still fucking confusing
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Maybe you could find some of that information from AC tech - like how they detect freon and such
  • Varine Varine:
    That's mostly what I've been looking at
  • Varine Varine:
    I don't think I'm dealing with quite the same pressures though, at the very least its a significantly smaller system. For the time being I'm just going to put together a quick scrubby box though and hope it works good enough to not make my house toxic
  • Varine Varine:
    I mean I don't use this enough to pose any significant danger I don't think, but I would still rather not be throwing styrene all over the air
  • The Helper The Helper:
    New dessert added to recipes Southern Pecan Praline Cake https://www.thehelper.net/threads/recipe-southern-pecan-praline-cake.193555/
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Another bot invasion 493 members online most of them bots that do not show up on stats
  • Varine Varine:
    I'm looking at a solid 378 guests, but 3 members. Of which two are me and VSNES. The third is unlisted, which makes me think its a ghost.
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Some members choose invisibility mode
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I bitch about Xenforo sometimes but it really is full featured you just have to really know what you are doing to get the most out of it.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    It is just not easy to fix styles and customize but it definitely can be done
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I do know this - xenforo dropped the ball by not keeping the vbulletin reputation comments as a feature. The loss of the Reputation comments data when we switched to Xenforo really was the death knell for the site when it came to all the users that left. I know I missed it so much and I got way less interested in the site when that feature was gone and I run the site.
  • Blackveiled Blackveiled:
    People love rep, lol
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    The recipe today is Sloppy Joe Casserole - one of my faves LOL https://www.thehelper.net/threads/sloppy-joe-casserole-with-manwich.193585/
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Decided to put up a healthier type recipe to mix it up - Honey Garlic Shrimp Stir-Fry https://www.thehelper.net/threads/recipe-honey-garlic-shrimp-stir-fry.193595/

      The Helper Discord

      Staff online

      Members online

      Affiliates

      Hive Workshop NUON Dome World Editor Tutorials

      Network Sponsors

      Apex Steel Pipe - Buys and sells Steel Pipe.
      Top