Health [Claim] Smoking increases chances of child being gay in adulthood

Zakyath

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I said his name is funny, his parents are probably dicks, and the article is bs. Where did I disregard him as a scientist? Can you quote me on that?

I guess you didn't, so let me rephrase my question if semantics are so important to you: what qualifies you to disregard this study?


I dont think an 8 year old would read a scientific article in the news and call it bs.
But I can very well imagine a little kid talking like this: "this guy is a scientist and stuff, you guys dont know anything, he is soooo much smarter then all of you, hes like really smart, seriously!"

Well, I did not say that. Besides, I read the article to, so you're really pushing it if that was what made you not sound like an eight year old. What I did say was a response to the fact that all of you criticized his claims without giving a hint that you knew anything about the subject. I was just trying to point out that you don't really have the authority to criticize him without presenting any actual arguments.
 

Zakyath

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My opinion: we treat this the same way we treat the idea that people are gay because God's punishing them for their sins.

I agree that the reason may be correct, but there's a difference between making arbitrary statements based on the oldest case of Chinese whispers and making qualified statements withing the field you've been researching for decades.
 

Varine

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The people who say they're gay for their sins have a good thousand years more of research behind their claims. Just because he's a neurobiologist doesn't mean much; the research on how the brain works is barely into it's infancy (really it's still in it's fetal stages to keep with the metaphor), meaning pretty much anything anyone says about it not very accurate, even with research it's barely any more useful. Unless they can find the gene sets and show that cigarettes can alter the makeup of those sets, which I seriously doubt they have done, then his claim is absolute bullshit to begin with.
 

Varine

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You're thinking about hearsay

No, you're just being your usual stubborn self running around going "I studied it and the researchers are smarter than all of you." Only a little more circumlocutious.
 

Zakyath

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No, you're just being your usual stubborn self running around going "I studied it and the researchers are smarter than all of you." Only a little more circumlocutious.

Then let me try to keep this short. This is not contrary to the assumptions neuroscience make today, and no one has so far presented any evidence suggesting it is. My painfully obvious point, that seem to elude you guys, is that the criticism presented in this thread is unwarranted.
 

FireCat

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I'm against smoking and drugs you all know that.. But this is one of the most ridiculous studies I've ever seen. Seriously, more then over half of the world's population would be gay or lesbian. It's like claiming that smoking weed while pregnant, will cause your baby to be a dog?
 

Zakyath

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I'm against smoking and drugs you all know that.. But this is one of the most ridiculous studies I've ever seen. Seriously, more then over half of the world's population would be gay or lesbian. It's like claiming that smoking weed while pregnant, will cause your baby to be a dog?

He didn't say that if you smoke your child will be gay. He suggested that homosexuality may be more common because of smoking while pregnant. And I can't believe you're comparing gays to dogs. They're very much human, just like us.
 

Varine

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Dude, you're even smart enough to talk to Cheshire and come out on top.
 
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