Discussion Companies needs to stop using our personal data to train AI

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Reddit, Slack, Google, Facebook, Instagram — these companies use our data — directly or indirectly — to train the next generation of AI language models. Yet, I don’t remember anyone asking our permission, and in doing so, these companies have proven the adage that customers’ data is their main product.

For much of the internet generation, companies have offered products for free or at little cost to entice customers into their ecosystems. Products such as Gmail, YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, and others appear to be free but collect user data that can be used to serve ads or even sold off in aggregated bundles.

While these business models were once acceptable, the rapid advancement of AI has brought forth a much larger and more pressing issue that carries significant implications for the future of our privacy.

The current generation of AIs are based on LLMs (large language models), which recognize, understand, and generate human language. Built using machine learning, they are trained on humongous data sets and can generate human-like text, recognize images, answer questions, or process audio and video in real time.




Same is true with this website and all the bots. We just had to ban the TikTok AI bot bytespider because it would unleash hundreds of bots on the forum and try to soak up all the information so it can train its AI. It is doing it to every other website it can find as well. It has been doing it for years too. There are at least 10 other bots online at all times soaking up the forum data except they are doing it in a respectable fashion, at least some of them. This has been going on for years and I personally have had enough. I have started having these things banned completely but these companies are not paying anyone really to train all this AI that has been coming out. Huge issue.
 
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    https://www.thehelper.net/pages/news/ is a link to the old news portal - i will integrate it into the interface somewhere when i figure it out
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    Need to try something
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    Hopefully this won't cause problems.
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    Hmm
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    I have converted the Headline News forum to an Article type forum. It will now show the top 20 threads with more detail of each thread.
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    See how we like that.
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    I do not see a way to go past the 1st page of posts on the forum though
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    It is OK though for the main page to open up on the forum in the view it was before. As long as the portal has its own URL so it can be viewed that way I do want to try it as a regular forum view for a while
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    Yeah I'm not sure what the deal is with the pagination.
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    It SHOULD be there so I think it might just be an artifact of having an older style.
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    I switched it to a "Standard" article forum. This will show the thread list like normal, but the threads themselves will have the first post set up above the rest of the "comments"
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I don't really get that article forum but I think it is because I have never really seen it used on a multi post thread
  • Ghan Ghan:
    RpNation makes more use of it right now as an example: https://www.rpnation.com/news/
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    What do you think Tom?
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    I will have to get used to this.
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    The latest news feed looks good
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    I would like to see it again like Ghan had it the first time with pagination though - without the pagination that view will not work but with pagination it just might...
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    I'm not so sure, there's still a lot of Thursday left for it to become unhappy.
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    still a few hours
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