constant mana burning abilities

[ThySpektre]

Are there any other constant mana burning abilities like Immolation?

ThySpektre

 

[Darthfett]

Umm... I think there is one other one... Mana shield. You might also be able to change defend to do that too.

 

[ThySpektre]

Is there any trigger that fires when immolation is turned off (either by user action or mana is depleted)? I'd like effects to the unit to be added/deleted based on whether the ability is in use.

The only work around I have found is to add a buff with immolation, then you can check when unit has a buff.

BUT, this is a condition and not an event, meaning if you want decent time accuracy, you need a fast time loop and continually poll it (laggy sounding).

ThySpektre

 

[Pyromancer]

you could just have a trigger that every bla seconds of the game, subtracts bla from units manna, and health

 

[ADNORM]

I like Pryomancer's idea, in general, although I have an ability based on mana shield that runs a trigger that checks when it gets deactivated that doesn't seem to lag much. Provided the ability only belongs to a few units/heroes rather than a large group, you should be fine with either trigger.

 

[ThySpektre]

Well, yes, um, that is what I asked about...

The bla issue bla bla is that you only want it to subtract bla when the ability is activated. So, since you need an ability that can be activated/deactivated (ala Immolation) and since activating it and deactivating it doesn't cause an event to happen...

The original question was DOES it fire any events or is there a good way to accomplish this.

you could just have a trigger that every bla seconds of the game, subtracts bla from units manna, and health

 

[ThySpektre]

Is that check based on whether ti still has the ability's buff or not?

ThySpektre

I like Pryomancer's idea, in general, although I have an ability based on mana shield that runs a trigger that checks when it gets deactivated that doesn't seem to lag much. Provided the ability only belongs to a few units/heroes rather than a large group, you should be fine with either trigger.

 

[Persen]

Check the free trigger code thread, i posted this trigger set once, and it works perfectly. Or, check the "Evasion draining mana" thread... The same trigger, but it might be better.

 

[ThySpektre]

Persen,

Afer some digging I found that post you talked about. I have a question regarding your implementation.

In this trigger...

Evasion On
    Events
        Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
    Conditions
        (Unit-type of (Ordered unit)) Equal to Archmage
        (Issued order) Equal to (Order(immolation))
    Actions
        Set TempUnit = (Ordered unit)
        Unit - Add Evasion Spellbook  to TempUnit
        Unit - Set level of Evasion Spellbook  for TempUnit to (Level of Evasion  for TempUnit)
        Custom script:   loop
        Custom script:   exitwhen (GetUnitStateSwap(UNIT_STATE_MANA, udg_TempUnit) < 1.00)
        Wait 0.50 seconds
        Custom script:   endloop
        Unit - Remove Evasion Spellbook  from TempUnit
        Set TempUnit = No unit

You have a loop to make sure the ability is removed when the mana hits 0 and you have another trigger to remove it when the ability is deactivated.

If the person turns this ability on, and then off many times thru a game without allowing his mana to hit 0, won't Ihave a ton of loops left running throughout the game?

ThySpektre

Check the free trigger code thread, i posted this trigger set once, and it works perfectly. Or, check the "Evasion draining mana" thread... The same trigger, but it might be better.

 

[DDRtists]

Persen,
You have a loop to make sure the ability is removed when the mana hits 0 and you have another trigger to remove it when the ability is deactivated.

If the person turns this ability on, and then off many times thru a game without allowing his mana to hit 0, won't Ihave a ton of loops left running throughout the game?

Yes you will, and it will make the game lag pretty bad

 

[Persen]

I did this in my newbie days, and i didn't know anything about leaks...

 

[Darthfett]

turning it off uses a different order string: unimmolation. Just change the mana required field, and mana drained field, and it'll turn off by itself, and then a trigger with the event: Unit is issued an order with no target
and condition: issued order equal to (unimmolation)

If you want to create custom special effects, just change the buff's target's effect, and immolation's effects.

 

[ThySpektre]

Darthfelt,

You missed one point. We want to add an ability that is NOT mana draining passive ability. With that being the case the OTHER ability needs shut off.

ThySpektre