[Contest] Hero Contest 1#

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"I only think they seem imbalanced to me on paper"

Ok, then try to balance them 'on paper'. (never really liked that saying)

"PotM doesn't have a morph;"
PotM has hide.

"Warden doesn't have a morph (she has a summon);"
Warden has hide (and a summon with various abilities).

"the Naga Sea Witch doesn't have a morph;"
Sea witch has submerge. Submerge is a morph.

"the Brewmaster has a morph."
Each with unique abilities.

"Does your hero have a morph? No; it can burrow into the ground."

Burrow is a morph.

"What categories are the judges judging? There's only one they are judging and it's called "Coding". The judges are not basing any score they give on what the spells do, what the tooltips are, how the hero fits his theme, how useful the hero is, or anything of that sort. They are simply reviewing the hero's code."

Why not extend the judges role so it doesn't become a complete popularity contest?
 
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Shadow Meld (not Hide) is an ability many Night Elves have, and so I said I don't have a problem with that. Sure, the Warden has a summon with 1 unique ability (resistant skin and spell immunity are moot points), but I also said I don't see anything wrong with summons that have abilities.

The Brewmaster is weird because he has a 3-part morph... the thing is that none of those units he morphs into have unique abilities. Every ability they have is present on (an)other unit(s) in the game.

The thing with burrow is that only two (and that's only if someone picks a Crypt Lord) units have the ability in the entire game: Crypt Fiends and Carrion Beetles. I don't think it's really a "standard" ability for a race like Shadow Meld is for Night Elves.

needshelpplz said:
Why not extend the judges role so it doesn't become a complete popularity contest?
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The point of having the judges only judge the code is so that it isn't a popularity contest... else it would be all about pleasing the judges specifically....

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Ok, then try to balance them 'on paper'. (never really liked that saying)
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You're right, the term is kind of stupid to use on the internet. Give me some time and I'll see what I can come up with for more balanced abilities.
 
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This is in a paragraph. The bolded parts are the only sources of a hero setup. The rest is just an example. Paragraphs != Neat Layout
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"Must be a balanced hero, like one you could add to a melee map."
That means 3 normals and a ult, generally. There is no theme. What do you need to know?!?! What a hero is??! If you play wc3, you should know....

This is what I'm talking about. Judges should not be able to just pull a number from 0-100 out of their ass. They need a setup.
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If it really bothers you THAT much I can pull them out of the old version I PMed myself. Seriously, though, Judging will be dicided mostly by votes in the poll, judges baisically make sure they are deserved, and add in thier own votes.

Pyrogasm should really be hosting this not me... >_>
 
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Hello. I heard this contest from my friend. Can i join this contest with my friend (xBloodSeeker) together?? We can share same rep award if we win?
 
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The posts regarding whether this thread is full of spam or not have been deleted. Let's stop posting them, this thread is way too active as it is.

Pyrogasm, I have no idea from where you get all those nerves to tell us how to moderate, especially is such disrespectful manner. The thread is 18 pages, you know what hell I went through trying to clean it? And half of the posts I wanted to delete I ignored.
 
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Rheias said:
The posts regarding whether this thread is full of spam or not have been deleted. Let's stop posting them, this thread is way too active as it is.

Pyrogasm, I have no idea from where you get all those nerves to tell us how to moderate, especially is such disrespectful manner. The thread is 18 pages, you know what hell I went through trying to clean it? And half of the posts I wanted to delete I ignored.
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Sorry for the spammy thread...

@Anti_Noob: I suppose so...
 
Hatebreeder

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Rheias said:
The posts regarding whether this thread is full of spam or not have been deleted. Let's stop posting them, this thread is way too active as it is.

Pyrogasm, I have no idea from where you get all those nerves to tell us how to moderate, especially is such disrespectful manner. The thread is 18 pages, you know what hell I went through trying to clean it? And half of the posts I wanted to delete I ignored.
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Pyro ist being Honest, and contructive, nothing wrong about that, I suppose.
And, I don't realy think he dissed you in any way.

Maybe consider these "How to Moderate" thingy, as suggestions :p
 
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"I don't think it's really a "standard" ability for a race like Shadow Meld is for Night Elves."

it is for zerg in star craft XD. Is there really a difference? One turns you invisible and you cant move... the other turns you invisible and you cant move.

Anyway, thanks for the criticism. I'll continue with my map and when I have the first version out then it will be easier to tell how things fit together.
 
Cohadar

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If anyone makes a hero that fits Naga theme I will gladly steal it for use in Pyramidal. :)
 
AceHart

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Ok...

This thread started vague and unorganized, and went downhill from there.
Currently, it "discusses" how some people think that other others think that think... whatever the heck.

As such, I'll overrule whoever thought it's funny to sticky this, and just close it before it gets (too) personal.
 
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Actually, this thread is as much a moderation failure as it is a member failure.
It should never have gone that far.

The thread as such changed direction several times.
That's not how it should be.
A contest needs a clear and pretty much permanent first post.
With all the rules, plans, and ideas clearly detailed.

Once people start to discuss it... that's the point where some moderator should have stepped in to keep it in line.
Unfortunately, that just didn't happen for some reason.

By now, this thing is beyond hopeless.

Closing it... is really just moving the problem somewhat out of view.
It hasn't actually solved it...


It is clear though that we need some better forum rules for general contest handling.

We'll think about it.


Yours,
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