experience

[Kheldar]

where do u change the amount of experience u get from a unit?

 

[Darg]

quote: (see gameplay constants)

Experience Tables 101
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The overall purpose of these four fields is to define a value of experience for every possible level. The "Table" field does this by simply specifying exactly that, an experience value for each level.

For example:

Hero XP Gained - Hero, Table = 100,120,160,220,300

which means that a hero will receive 100 XP for killing a level 1 hero, 120 XP for killing a level 2 hero, and so forth.

Now then, explicitly setting a value for every single hero level can be tedious and wasteful if you have a lot of hero levels (say, 500). So, the three formula fields are used to calculate all values beyond those in the existing table field.

This formula computes the experience value "f(x)", for level "x", based on the level and previous experience value, as well as a constant:

f(x) = C + L*x + P*f(x-1)

where

C = Constant Factor field
L = Level Factor field
P = Previous Value field

Continuing our example using the Hero XP Gained - Hero fields (C = 100, L = 0, P = 1), the experience gained from killing a level 6 hero would be:

100 + 0*6 + 1*300 = 400

Note that the 300 is the experience for level 5, which comes from the table. For level 7, we get:

100 + 0*7 + 1*400 = 500

and so on. This particular equation is quite simple, it just adds 100 more for every level.

Now we can look at the Hero XP Gained - Normal fields, where

Table = 25 (only one entry!)
C = 5
L = 5
P = 1

and compute

f(1) = 25 (from table)
f(2) = 5 + 5*2 + 1*25 = 40
f(3) = 5 + 5*3 + 1*40 = 60
f(4) = 5 + 5*4 + 1*60 = 85
f(5) = 5 + 5*5 + 1*85 = 115

and so on.

 

[Kheldar]

but for normal units then? for example it says that a footman is level 2 in the unit editor, but u dont get 120 XP for a footman.

 

[Kheldar]

???

 

[Mind]

The levels for units are merely a classification that can only be used in the editor. For exemple in the unit pallette, when you want to place the most powerfull neutral hostile creature, but you don't know which one is most powerfull. The color of the creep camp also depends on the total levels of the creeps.

B.t.w, what are the results of the beta testing? Everyone is always so enthousiastic to test it, but no one tells the results.

 

[Kheldar]

i havent tested your map, but i will do it tonight i think, but how do u set the amount of XP earned for normal units then?

 

[Kheldar]

oh, and in the beggining i want to have a message that says "welcamoe to blablabla" which i have done, but i want to have one message which shows to half of the players and another which shows to the other half. is there any way to do this?

 

[Kheldar]

no, i got it right (the message).

 

[Mind]

Normal units have no experience, and cannot EARN levels.

For the second question, well, that is possible, but only if you send the message in a number of messages equal to the number of players.

Event:
    [Time - elapsed time]
    Elapsed time is 10 seconds
Conditions:
    [Player controller comparison]
    Controller of player 1 is equal to user
Actions:
    [Game - send message]
    Display to (all players) (Player 1)

Event:
    [Time - elapsed time]
    Elapsed time is 10 seconds
Conditions:
    [Player controller comparison]
    Controller of player 2 is equal to user
Actions:
    [Game - send message]
    Display to (all players) (Player 2)

Etc…

 

[DU_CyNiCaL_oNe]

wtf

jeez kheldar...

FOUR POSTS IN A ROW?

SHEESH!

 

[Kheldar]

yeah, sry. i will start to ask all questions in one thread.

 

[SD_Ryoko]

Mind,

You asked everyone to scrutinize your map from a developers standpoint. I like your map. I started playing it with a notebook ready, and jotting down everything I could think of.

As the list grew, I became concerned that If I added some constructive critisim you would take it personally, or retaliate.

Perhaps thats why people avoid that topic.

Originally posted by Mind
The levels for units are merely a classification that can only be used in the editor. For exemple in the unit pallette, when you want to place the most powerfull neutral hostile creature, but you don't know which one is most powerfull. The color of the creep camp also depends on the total levels of the creeps.

B.t.w, what are the results of the beta testing? Everyone is always so enthousiastic to test it, but no one tells the results.

 

[Mind]

Nooo! Of course I won't take it personally.
I'd be very gratefull if you'd told me the results. The larger the list, the better, truly.
The author of the LOTR map didn't care that I posted such a large list either.

 

[Darg]

I think we all know Mind well enough now to know that he won't take criticism personally, and he will never be offended by it. More the opposite, he would probably agree with it.

Your LotR feedback was damn good feedback Mind, don't know if that guy read it or not though....

 

[DU_CyNiCaL_oNe]

Yah

I haven't played the map yet... but i'll dl it 2nite. lol, first of all tho, can u tell me wat itz about?

 

[Kheldar]

hmm, noone answered my question yet. how do u set the amount of XP gained for NORMAL units, not heroes.

 

[Mind]

I already said that there is no experience for units. Only levels, and those are merely used for editor classification.

If you want a unit that can GAIN levels, well, then you're stuck; only heroes can gain experience.

I haven't played the map yet... but i'll dl it 2nite. lol, first of all tho, can u tell me wat itz about?

Not all human villages were destroyed by the Scourge; a very few number of villages in the southeast of Lordaeron still fight against the Undead. Despite the fact that the Scourge is a huge threat to all who lives, those villages are threated by something else: Many bandits also roam the land since the fall of Lordaeron, causing the second largest threat to humanity.
Weeks after Arthas' departure to Icecrown, Brian, the leader of the bandit clan "The Raging Horde", prepares his men for their next strike. Since the guards of the village they wish to assault are diminished, it will be a relatively easy job. However, the Scourge also poses a threat to the Raging Horde… Brian will lead the Raging Horde to the south soon.

 

[Kheldar]

nononoonnononoooo. u dont understand, i want to set how much XP you get for killing a unit. for example u get like 30 xp or something for killing a footman

 

[Mind]

Perhaps it merely depends on how powerfull the dying unit is?

 

[Kheldar]

yes, maybe. there should be a field in the unit editor... wonder why there isnt.