Feeling superior or enjoying a good game?

[mapguy]

I want to make an Unprotected AOS, yes, true, really unprotected.

reasons:
-allows users of this forum to look my triggers and see if they find a bug.
-allows people to balance the map if some hero is opressive.
-allows players to create new game modes.

But, to ensure that my map will not be edited for hacking purposes, I decided that my game will be designed in a way people enjoy the game, even if they are noobs or dying a lot.

I think that a reason why we have hacks on dota is because Dota is game that is too competitive, and becomes boring when you start dying and lose a lot of gold and can't become powerful.

In the other hand, Age Of Myths, which is another AOS, does not penalize players that dies, so, you will not becomes underpowered when you die a lot. Also, spells are not based on clicking, you have to AIM most of them.

The reason of this thread is because I want to hear from you all, what makes you enjoy a game and don't hack it?

In my opinion

a game is enjoyable when:
- It is based on strategy, and not in beeing an addicted nerd which plays 4 hours per day.
- when a PRO player don't become opressive, only stronger.
- when you have spells that you feel good when use it in the right way (elune's arrow, meat hook).
- when the game is not repetitive.
- when the game ends in less than 40 minutes.

 

[BlackRose]

Random input:
- games that don't have like omg 70 seconds of waiting when you die.

 

[Winterherz]

my philosophy to to a good game

Both

u want all players to feel superior to enjoy

note the

 

[mapguy]

Random input:
- games that don't have like omg 70 seconds of waiting when you die.

Ill keep that in mind.
(Do you think 15 seconds of waiting when a level max hero dies is too much?)

my philosophy to to a good game

Both

u want all players to feel superior to enjoy

note the

You said nothing...
be more specific.

 

[KillerChi]

I hate how hard it is to play DoTA when my whole team is trying to get me kicked or begging me to get kicked. Maybe decrease hero kill reward? Maybe increase time it takes to level up?

 

[mapguy]

Maybe decrease hero kill reward?

yeah, good idea.
by this way feeders will not ruin the game.
and
awesome players will not become overpowered.

 

[KillerChi]

yeah, good idea.
by this way feeders will not ruin the game.
and
awesome players will not become overpowered.

Try not to make it into a noob's game, you should still have the more awesome players rewarded. It just sucks when you're more harm than good.

 

[today]

Good idea !

 

[Nudl9]

The idea is pretty great in theory, allowing people to check out the map's mechanics and such, but would leave your unique and distinct (for example ToB O's single spell CD reset) features exposed anyone to take easily which kinda ruins the special touch you left.

 

[CrazedPyscho]

Quote:
a game is enjoyable when:
- It is based on strategy, and not in beeing an addicted nerd which plays 4 hours per day.
- when a PRO player don't become opressive, only stronger.
- when you have spells that you feel good when use it in the right way (elune's arrow, meat hook).
- when the game is not repetitive.
- when the game ends in less than 40 minutes.

well mapguy the idea u got is really great but as to these points u mentioned:

1) i agree
2)i agree
3)to an extent
4)how can a game not become repetitive if u keep playing it, i mean think about it from tds, to aos's, n hero arenas or minigames or w/e.
5)well yea i guess it depends how time goes with the game, whether yor attention span can be prolonged by the game

what about another simple point: originality. :banghead: I think when people make maps they should consider this key factor and shouldn't try to make a SIMILAR aos map or include the same CONCEPT but come with a totally new mindblowing concepy unheard and unwitnessed b4, that kinda grabs you excitement instantly!

Ps: yea i know i didn't quote it properly