Global Warming Argument

[SilverHawk]

This is a wonderful argument. He has taken a better approach than anyone I've ever seen; ignoring the nature of the truth in favor of the consequences of our actions really is the approach that humanity ought to take.

I'm certainly forwarding this.

 

[Prometheus]

I added this on myspace under Heros XD

 

[King TonGoll]

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

if you scroll down to the graph, it will explain the true reason for global warming, but I will pst something else as well,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHjczyA75jU

It is long, hope you have time.

 

[Lord_Phoenix]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Warming

On Earth, the major natural greenhouse gases are water vapor, which causes about 36–70% of the greenhouse effect

Not Carbon Dioxide! Oh Noes!!!

http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
Even though its a regular site, it lists all its sources.

Just thrwoing in a wrench. Have fun!

 

[DirtyJobs]

The scientific debate over global warming is over.

It has been widely accepted by the scientific community and by any rational and reasonable individule. The evidence is overwhelming.

Anyone who doubts that global warming is occuring, is one who refuses or incorrectly interprets the data and deneys the most simple scientific principles.

For example, that a majority of visible, and infared radiation is reflected by the surface of the planet back into space, by most notebly, the ice sheets.
As surface area diminshes, thus does the amount of reflected radiation.
It isn't a matter of debate. It's a matter of mathematics and observation.

 

[King TonGoll]

precisly, math, not science. well science threw math, and that is not solid science, did you even bother to watch the second link I sent? It´s not about being ignorant, it´s how others see it. if there are scientist´s who disagree, don´t you think there would be a reason?

 

[DirtyJobs]

The scientist who disagree are very few, and probably shouldnt consider thierselves scientist.

 

[Miz]

Well Dirty Jobs does have a point
but the agruiment is still going on just not as big

 

[King TonGoll]

I may be ignorant but you are bein ignorant yourself.

How can you say that when you have never even heard there reasons? It´s a two sided arument, and I don´t think where on the same boat here.

here you are spouting smoke and not bothering either A) read-watch the opposin side, or B) post anythin to back up your reasoning.

You talked about how the polar ice is meltin, but failed to mentiom any hard proof it was due to polution, or the theory of global warming.

There is a Relation between polution and temp, but there is all so a relation between temp and the number of pirates, and many otherthins out there. a relationship is not proof itself.

I hate this keyboard, hard to type O´s and G´s

all so anyone who cant notice the need for better science should consider rethinking as well.

 

[Prometheus]

In one place, the ice there is growing at like 3 in. a year.

 

[Akatsuki]

You know someone also said that even if you don't think global warming is real. The things that will be done will still have some good benifits. Like fresher air, a nicer envirement. Stuff that that.

 

[Lord_Phoenix]

Yes, it will have positive benifits, but at what cost?

 

[Miz]

>> Yes, it will have positive benifits, but at what cost?

Does it matter how must it cost for human existents?
Ok... Just saying if it is true and we have probelms I hope your money will do some help for yah!

And I would feel better if we spent money to make the world cleaner
like I said if we have a economical crash we can recover but we may not recover from global warming if it exist

We have to take the gamble to prepare
Its better to be safe then sorry

 

[XXXconanXXX]

I'm sorry guys, but I have to pop in with a reminder of the rules:

As long as this doesn't spark any flaming or ill will towards each other, you guys can have at it. I'll keep a close eye on this thread, and will close it if it gets out of control, but I believe you all have the maturity to keep it civil and polite.

I'm sorry to have to pop in like this, just keep it clean.

Continue on.

 

[Amfidamant]

Just my two cents:

Actually, as pointing fingers to USA is quite popular here, I'd like to point out that cows (yes, those grass eating animals the give milk and meat for the hamburgers) are actually nearly the same problem as the vehicle exhaustion, because they actually keep belching and "exhasuting" their... natural gas, together with CO2, and believe me, those amounts are fairly large.

As for the "let our kid's do it" it's just because we're too lazy to do anything. Why did we invent wheel, elevators, refridgerators or microwaves? Because we, whole humanity, are so lazy as it can get. And we won't let these inventions easily, unless someone invents something better. So, unless we'd get hover cars that don't pollute air, we all won't care.

But. That view "We alone can't do anything, let's don't do anything then" is false. Government doesnt do anything? It doesn't have to. We have to. Everyone keep saying: "Start from yourself". We'll do it. Come on, who knows, maybe you've got all your neighbours thinking "I'd do it, but nobody does, so it won't change it", just start it and all this could light up! Atleast try to.


Oh, and remember one thing - people say something like "there was no summer more hot than this year" or something. Just remember that it might have been in the past, just noone lives to prove it. Maybe in 1864 we had the same heat as in 2007. Noone lives to tell it. Global warming? We'll live with it. Flood, heat - we're like those roaches, we will move to sea or mountins or to the poles of Earth. We will invent something, we will think of something and so on. Or we will all die. But in that case, we won't care about it anymore

 

[Husky]

I'll keep a close eye on this thread,

Make that two eyes. I'm already half on my way to closing it hehe. But seems alright thus far.

 

[SilverHawk]

The things that will be done will still have some good benifits. Like fresher air, a nicer envirement. Stuff that that.

Tell that to countries like Indonesia.

 

[DM Cross]

I'm sorry guys, but I have to pop in with a reminder of the rules:

As long as this doesn't spark any flaming or ill will towards each other, you guys can have at it. I'll keep a close eye on this thread, and will close it if it gets out of control, but I believe you all have the maturity to keep it civil and polite.

I'm sorry to have to pop in like this, just keep it clean.

Continue on.

You're 36 posts late. I've been keeping a weary, restrained eye on this thread since it started. Some voice in the back of my head kept me from closing it before it shot off the handle.

Some voice in the front of my head is currently putting away the bloody axe. We still don't know what happened to the other voice. We can only guess

Watch yourselves, as Conan said. If any staff member feels this has the least bit of potential to turn bad, it will be "closed and burned", as Ace said in another thread

Have a good one, folks.

 

[stubs101]

Theres proof that we are effecting it.

Yeah. The sun's rays reflect off whatever it can to keep our planet cool. A.K.A. water. Lately we have been polluting it big time, which makes is so dirty the sun can't reflect off the water, like a mirror, so that the heat stays trapped. Add to that the CO2 thing or whatever it is which is destroying the Ozone, allowing more heat rays from the sun to enter, and not come out.

But heres the major thing
We think we know everything about our planet but we don't
We don't know if this is just a cycle or our fault but I still think we should still take action ^^

If this is a cycle, where was it in the 1800's, or even the 100's, and even if it happens later, in the biblical times. Jesus has arisen from thine holy grail, and Thou will save art humankind. Btw it's getting hot, I hope he can fix that too.
We have deciphered many biblical stone tablets, but none about temperature.

 

[TrustFactor]

I really think that people out in the world should make a difference if they want to live because the guy is telling us we have a 50/50 percent chance that we are going to die. If we do something about it we have a lesser chance of the world ending. I mean we made it through a depression in the 30s I dont see why we wouldn't be able to make it through another one if global warming isn't because of climate change. Yeah we'll loose a lot of money but it's not like that will change the U.S. is in financial trouble as it is.