Has Anyone Seen This?

[Advice D.]

The concept of clicking to create code.

Fair enough. I misread your post and thought you meant that WE had better GUI.

 

[Lyerae]

Oh no, SC2 GUI is MUCH better than WC3 GUI. Improved to the point that I'd recommend it to people whom are just starting triggering (as opposed to have done WC3 GUI before. At that point, just move to scripting.).

 

[ZugZugZealot]

GUI has been improved with one non-GUI related change. Garbage collection removes the needs to destroy certain things, though destroying handles in Warcraft III should have been there for GUI to begin with. Native struct support (records in GUI) is new to both GUI and scripts. You can make action definitions (custom function without a return) and custom functions. Native support for multi-dimensional arrays (new to both GUI and script). The list goes on for nice things added to GUI.

However, there are some things GUI is missing, ignoring the fact typing out code is generally faster than clicking and typing code. Custom functions cannot be called unless they're being set to a value. You can't use variables (namely constants) for declaring index size of arrays, which is useful to have because there are generally more steps to increasing an array's size than just its index (such as code checks to see if adding a value will exceed the array's limit). You cannot create triggers from code in GUI and you cannot add events to a trigger from code.

 

[XxMayhemxX]

I can see his point tho...

Im making new upgrades for all Terran man and vehicles... And for each level of each one, I have to click through multiple things in Data.. Upgrades/Requirements/Abilities/Units AND multiple dialog boxes i have to go through INSIDE each one of those... I can only imagine how tedious it would be to do that for all races and all upgrades lol

I'm doing this right now.. as i post im taking a break... lol

I think what Lyerae was referring to was... imagine if we had large all encompassing script text editor(alongside the GUI) where we could find a line/word/ etc. and paste in the lines we need... While the GUI is very user friendly, it may be faster for some with wayyyyyyyyyyyy less clicks, dialog boxes, scroll bars, ok buttons...

I could copy and paste lines and go through each section Requirments/Abilities/Upgrades Ctrl-Ving Terran Infantry Weapons Lvl 4 into each area much faster...

I think thats what he's getting at... depends on the person tho i guess...

 

[onisagi]

It would be nice if they added User modes to the editor like "Normal/Advance". And each tier would show/hide features depending on the type of user. Programmers would change to Advance mode and have access to a raw galaxy/xml editor that auto-imports, and beginners would only have access to the layers, triggers, and maybe data module.

I don't really see anything that can't be done outside of the GUI that you can do inside, in some cases it might have to be a custom implementation vs Blizz's default stuff. I think their intention is to let you make it from scratch.

Not sure if this is said already, but blizzard said they have no intentions of implementing a script editor into GE that can directly manipulate script/data. That just means modders that want more functionality will just use the GE for terraining and unit/doodad placement, and do everything else externally. Maybe we can get them to change their mind over time? :shades:

 

[DarkFear]

they're not progamming lenguages!

 

[Kelv]

I still consider myself programming when using SC2 Editor. I don't understand these people who are so anal when they start talking about it being a scripting language vs a programing language.

Maybe thats because I'm used to Java but does scripting vs programming really change the problem at hand?

they're not progamming lenguages!

Did you suck at spelling or are you trying to make some joke about them being pro-gaming languages (lenguages) ?

 

[Doomhammer]

You can't and I believe Blizzard said that they wouldn't implement straight coding into the editor.

That's a joke, right?
These gui "scripts" are about as bloated as back in the days of the WE.
Whenever some more complex mechanics are sought after, proper scripting remains the only (and most efficient) option.

 

[Vestras]

That's a joke, right?
These gui "scripts" are about as bloated as back in the days of the WE.
Whenever some more complex mechanics are sought after, proper scripting remains the only (and most efficient) option.

No, it's not a joke. But don't worry, there will be alternatives.