IRC Chat

[U are a noob]

Would it be possible for the Web-site to have a IRC Chat so we can discuss things faster? There is of-course some things that could be bad with it like moderation for language and bashing but I think the people on this site has enough common sense to not bash/flame.

Out-Line

Negatives
Situation One: Person start a spam post based off of IRC.
Since spam has be around before IRC you can do the same to the spam as before.

Situation Two:Flooding
And a limit to how many comments you can send within 2 seconds.
Also do not allow people to send comments that are exactly the same as the previous.

Situation Three: Foul Language
I'm pretty sure there are things that just stop people from saying foul language.

Situation Four: Laggy Server
It would probably be good to keep things as simple as possible. Kick idle people.

Situation Five: It would draw activity away from the forum.
As I've said before the forums will always be used to put question out before some one leaves for school or some thing.
But the forums would still be active if you kept the chat rooms to a small amount of people.
And if you ask a question on IRC it would only be because you need a quick answer.
The forums will never die if people want to say things that will be read by all.
And yes it may draw activity from the forums but it would also bring more activity to the site.
Also if discussions are done in IRC then after the discussion is over you could merely post the discussion so
all may see it.

Situation Six:Reduced quality of discussions
The quality of the discussions will be the same as they were on the forums.
The people who have low discussing skills will continue to talk bad but the
people with good discussion skills will still thrive.
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[sqrage]

I think it can be a good idea, if it is put out well.
It can have both negative and positive effects based on certain details.

-Moderation.
If the chat is moderated horribly, then new members may go in there expecting a faster reply to their posts than on the forums, and then see a massive amount of spam and immaturity, which would likely result in the members turning around and never coming back to the site.
If the moderation succeeds then people will hopefully receive answers faster than if they were relying on the forums alone. However, this too can have a negative impact on the forums, people might stop using the forums completely and only ask their questions over the chat.

-'Inside Posts'
People will have conversations on the chat and then come back to the forums and make a 'witty' reply that only people from the chat will understand. This can anger moderators since it will seem (it is) like spam. I've seen it happen already from the AIM chat. I don't see any positives out of this.

-Design
If the host is bad(slow loads), then that will make new visitors think that the site is the same way. And if it is hosted on th.net that will cause server issues. eg. lag.

 

[mase]

I would think instant messeging would do better than IRC. Most people on TH have msn, yahoo, skype, or aim.

 

[U are a noob]

I think it can be a good idea, if it is put out well.
It can have both negative and positive effects based on certain details.

-Moderation.
If the chat is moderated horribly, then new members may go in there expecting a faster reply to their posts than on the forums, and then see a massive amount of spam and immaturity, which would likely result in the members turning around and never coming back to the site.
If the moderation succeeds then people will hopefully receive answers faster than if they were relying on the forums alone. However, this too can have a negative impact on the forums, people might stop using the forums completely and only ask their questions over the chat.

Yes. Defiantly that is the most important part of it. But forums will always be used to leave a question while your off some where like school.

-'Inside Posts'
People will have conversations on the chat and then come back to the forums and make a 'witty' reply that only people from the chat will understand. This can anger moderators since it will seem (it is) like spam. I've seen it happen already from the AIM chat. I don't see any positives out of this.

Perhaps, post the chat log?

-Design
If the host is bad(slow loads), then that will make new visitors think that the site is the same way. And if it is hosted on th.net that will cause server issues. eg. lag.

Of-course it is a must.

I would think instant messeging would do better than IRC. Most people on TH have msn, yahoo, skype, or aim.

Yes, But TH doesn't..... or maybe he does I don't know. I have always been talking to people on instant message but I think IRC would be better for people who have request a person to help him as a partner. So thoses people can talk to that other person easier.

 

[sqrage]

>>Perhaps, post the chat log?

I mean things like

Hey this is my new map
[Map here]

Hahahahhahaha nice..but you eat potatoes ololololollolool.

(not a real expample)

 

[U are a noob]

>>Perhaps, post the chat log?

I mean things like


Hahahahhahaha nice..but you eat potatoes ololololollolool.

(not a real expample)

LOL. Yes I can see that being a problem. But things like that usually don't happen and [del]if does you Admins just click one button and its gone[/del]. But isn't that generally just spam that can be done by any one for any reason?
Edit: I take that back since I don't know how its done.

 

[sqrage]

>>Yes I can see that being a problem. But things like that usually don't happen
Want links?

Anyway, it can work, my post wasn't to discourage you, but more to give you things to think about and to think of ways to prevent/enforce them. So if you give a nice outline of how you will prevent the negatives, it can probably be given a test run, based on what the other admins and mods think about the idea.

 

[U are a noob]

>>Yes I can see that being a problem. But things like that usually don't happen
Want links?

Anyway, it can work, my post wasn't to discourage you, but more to give you things to think about and to think of ways to prevent/enforce them. So if you give a nice outline of how you will prevent the negatives, it can probably be given a test run, based on what the other admins and mods think about the idea.

Out-Line

Negatives
Situation One: Person start a spam post based off of IRC.
Since spam has be around before IRC you can do the same to the spam as before.

Situation Two:Flooding
And a limit to how many comments you can send within 2 seconds.
Also do not allow people to send comments that are exactly the same as the previous.

Situation Three: Foul Language
I'm pretty sure there are things that just stop people from saying foul language.

Situation Four: Laggy Server
It would probably be good to keep things as simple as possible. Kick idle people.

Situation Five: It would draw activity away from the forum.
As I've said before the forums will always be used to put question out before some one leaves for school or some thing.
But the forums would still be active if you kept the chat rooms to a small amount of people.
And if you ask a question on IRC it would only be because you need a quick answer.
The forums will never die if people want to say things that will be read by all.
And yes it may draw activity from the forums but it would also bring more activity to the site.
Also if discussions are done in IRC then after the discussion is over you could merely post the discussion so
all may see it.

Situation Six:Reduced quality of discussions
The quality of the discussions will be the same as they were on the forums.
The people who have low discussing skills will continue to talk bad but the
people with good discussion skills will still thrive.
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[mase]

For the laggy server part, you should also kick idle people.

 

[Lobster]

Heres an idea (although, it would be slow and limited) Maybe make it so a IRC had to be approved by an admin, and could only be joined if an admin approved. Problem is, the admins would be getting spammed with personal messages and what not. solution to that: make an extra account for everybody whos an admin, (for mail only)

 

[U are a noob]

For the laggy server part, you should also kick idle people.

Added.

Heres an idea (although, it would be slow and limited) Maybe make it so a IRC had to be approved by an admin, and could only be joined if an admin approved. Problem is, the admins would be getting spammed with personal messages and what not. solution to that: make an extra account for everybody whos an admin, (for mail only)

No. That probably wouldn't work out well.

 

[SilverHawk]

Negative #5:

It would draw activity away from the forum.

 

[U are a noob]

Negative #5:

It would draw activity away from the forum.

Updated.

 

[DM Cross]

Your Outline should be in the FIRST post. People read that post more than any other post in a thread, even the last one before theirs.

And just so you know, I am not in favor of this

 

[U are a noob]

Your Outline should be in the FIRST post. People read that post more than any other post in a thread, even the last one before theirs.

Updated.

And just so you know, I am not in favor of this

Awe. The words of a administrator will be sure to shut me down .

 

[DM Cross]

You say that like you think I am the only one ^.^

 

[U are a noob]

You say that like you think I am the only one ^.^

Your among the higher up administrators in my opinion and your the only one I'm aware of that is against IRC ( If you know what I'm saying).

 

[DM Cross]

I am actually one of the three newest Admins, believe it or not with my egotistical ways. Thus, I am actually on the bottom of the totem poll.

And I assure you, I am not the only one against it, while there is not no one on your side. If you understand that

 

[U are a noob]

I am actually one of the three newest Admins, believe it or not with my egotistical ways. Thus, I am actually on the bottom of the totem poll.

And I assure you, I am not the only one against it, while there is not no one on your side. If you understand that

Hmm. Interesting. Hopefully there will be more on my side.

 

[SilverHawk]

Actually, most mods/admins are against you. Seriously though, they are.

However, many are willing to give it a try. So it's still up in the air.