Iron Soldeir 3 on Toshiba SD-2300

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I was reading through the forums and came across the point that the Iron Soldier 3 game was withdrawn from public sale due to incompatibility issues with some/earlier NUON players, and in particularly with the Toshiba SD-2300. Just what are the exact details on this?

I ask as the first NUON game i ever got was IS3, then i got a CIB Toshiba SD-2300 player (with TNT) and remember playing it before getting my Samsung N-501. I unpacked my Toshiba model today, loaded up Iron Soldier 3, and lo and behold...

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I've never had any issues with IS III on my SD2300 it has always played just as flawless as on my N501
 

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I do not have any links to sources but I recall that it was a problem with only some of the sd2300's. They pulled it just to be safe. I remember that Eclipse, the developer was having trouble recreating the error because it was not on all models. I bet the Dragon Shadow guy would know more about this :)
 

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On a side note, that's quite a collection of Xbox 360's you've got there, Serb ;)
Hehe, thanks K3V, but that's nothing - i have another 15 boxed 360's in the spare room :D

Not sure if you remember from old JSII days, but i've always been into console LAN/local link-up play (hence all my previous Battlespheres & network adapters). If you check my personal twitter background pic, you will see the themed LAN events that i do with them ;) https://twitter.com/Serblander

As for those in the pic: GoW Slim (PAL), GoW Elite (PAL), Halo 3 (US) & Blue Dragon (Jap). The 360 Command Centre is GO!!! lol

Now, on a totally unrelated note: what the hell do you know about these recalled Iron Soldier 3 discs?! :p
 

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The ones that I mailed out? There's a cool back story to those.

I had made pretty good contacts with VM Labs over the years and when the whole IS3 release/recall thing was happening one of the guys contacted me and asked if I'd be willing to distribute some discs as an act of goodwill to the community.

I agreed and they sent me some spindles of discs and those white mailers and asked that I write "Demo, Not for Resale" on all the discs. I believe they reimbursed me for the postage but I can't really remember.

Needless to say I'm glad I did it since so few boxed copies actually ever surfaced!
 

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Wow! That was really nice of the guy! Do you by chance remember the name of said person? Imagine if there was an awesome person like that for every defunct system how much that would go towards keeping their work, system (and memories) alive...
 

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It was a damn shame they recalled the game because there was nothing really wrong with it except an incompatibility with a small amount of players. Its a great game too!
 

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It was a damn shame they recalled the game because there was nothing really wrong with it except an incompatibility with a small amount of players. Its a great game too!
Of those players reported to be incompatible with IS3, where they ONLY some Toshiba models or were there other models implicated as well, like the Samsung Extiva N-2000 (or even any Samsung N-5xx models)?
 

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Of those players reported to be incompatible with IS3, where they ONLY some Toshiba models or were there other models implicated as well, like the Samsung Extiva N-2000 (or even any Samsung N-5xx models)?

That I don't know.
 

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Iron Soldier 3 works fine on my Toshiba SD-2300.

It's the Extiva N-2000 that has problems playing the game.

It works on my N2000 system, but it does freeze occasionally.

There's another theory that the "recall" had something to do with 9-11, as the goal of some of the levels in the game was to knock down buildings, and they felt it would have been controversial, or something. I don't know how much truth there is to that theory.

There were rumors of a 'fixed' version of the game being developed, but VM Labs went belly up shortly after the recall so it never happened.
 

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There's another theory that the "recall" had something to do with 9-11, as the goal of some of the levels in the game was to knock down buildings, and they felt it would have been controversial, or something. I don't know how much truth there is to that theory.
That's VERY interesting! Could be possible as i remember they took out all World Trade Centre shots from the Spider-Man movie (and early commercials) after 9-11. Then again it was released on the PS1 at the same time. Still, the fact that they had to recall it in any case makes it more plausible. Do you remember where you heard or read that? Would love to know if it had some 'official' truth to it.
 

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I could be wrong but I thought the ps3 version came later on.
 

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I don't have any good info about the incompatibility regarding IS3 or why it was pulled. I never heard the 9/11 angle.
 
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Wasn't there a firmware revision from the first NUON players? The interim between the Aries 2 and 3 processors? I think the first or second player either the toshiba or the extiva had 2 different versions of the firmware in them. I know the problem was specific to the player. I was keeping tabs on this stuff when I was editing the NUON category in dmoz and the Eclipse people were trying to figure out was wrong and could not recreate the error until they were shipped a unit where they could recreate it. By the time they worked it out the NUON was dead.
 
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