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i seem to be getting lag during the loading screen that im trying to clean up a little bit. I have been looking in maps to see what i have excess of. At first i thought it was the doodad count which was just under 5000 now i have clean up excess trees and other thing and got it down to something like 2500 with no change in lag time. Then i started to think that it was my custom units/items/abilities. But looking in Darky's NCCD map he has:

353 custom units i have 89
67 triggers i have 252 but,
he has 171 functions and i have 198
169 custom items to my 152
1500 varibles to my 1000
5512 doodads to my 2500
82 regions to my 33

he beats me in everthing except for triggers and has half the load time.

Darky' s map is a small size where mine is the largest is this the difference? or maybe triggers?

Note: My guesstamated load time is about 2 mins maybe closer to 1 and a half

I realize this is probably a really hard question to answer because there are so may factors that go into effect at the loading screen, but any ideas would be helpful.
 
Do you have lots of repeated events?
Like, every five sec of game time... bla, bla
As you said, there are many many factors that could couse lag, so its really hard to guess...
But its most likely one of your more complicated triggers...
Do you delete all triggers that run only once after they finish?
 
I dont have any in game lag, which for me at least is alot easier to figure out. i dont have any periodic event and i do delete all of my one-shot triggers. Its really just the load time that is the problem. i have gone back and timed it to 3 mins. if i get bored waiting for it im sure anyone waiting for that long on bnet will too. I dont have a slow computer either. I have a 2800Xp athlon with half gig of 400Mhz ram and a geforce 4 Ti4600, so thats not the problem. Any thing else i might be missing?
 
Hmm...
Do you have lots of map initialization triggers?
If you do, set some of them to 0.1 of game time.
 
That got me a step in the right direction shaving off 10 seconds but its not the real problem.
 
i seem to be getting lag during the loading screen
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I know what you are trying to say, but I should just correct you by saying that you can't get "lag" during the loading screen, you can only get "slow loading".

3 mins. as a load time is totally insane.

I can tell you that triggers would be the most likely cause of this problem. Custom object data is also a factor, but you don't have many custom units.

Forget the stats for functions, that doesn't matter. 252 triggers is huge, you really shouldn't be hitting over 200 in any scenario. Have you perchance got a lot of duplicated code? Do your triggers have much code in them, or are many of them one-liners?

Try this as an experiment, just to make sure that triggers are causing the problem:

Make a copy of your map, and then go and delete every single trigger. Now go and play the map, and see what the load time is.
 
I making a RPG with 40 playable characters. You start as a peasant and work you way up the food chain. Its all done with dialog boxes. depending on your current job and resoures you get a different box with options to upgrade to a new job. i have 70 triggers tied up in this massive class system i set up. When i had it condensed into a three triggers i ran into serious lag in game, so i broke it down into small componets and ended up with 70 triggers.

But, i tried deleting all the triggers and the load time was roughly the same maybe 30 sec shorter at most. Still over 2.5 min. Im starting to think its something from WEU. I have a couple ideas to try involving that.
 
How many custom doodads do you have, and how many imported models, sounds...
 
custom doodads 3
all imported models and sounds have been removed

Can cliffs cause this. i have a town thats 7 or 8 levels of cliffs above the average level.
 
Could be, but Im really not sure... and it doesnt seem likely.
You can always flaten everything, and see what happens, just as an experiment...
 
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