Spell Moving Strikes

[Chaos_Knight]

It's a simple spell, he's learning it. So guys, don't discourage him.

Thanks. Anyone that can say something positive to this? Please. :thup:

 

[Laiev]

Thanks. Anyone that can say something positive to this? Please. :thup:

This spell is good... but not sufficient to be approved... so i suggest you make more spells <based on the same style> and create a spellpack

also PLEASE.... USE DAMAGE SYSTEM -.-

unit is attacked is easy to bug

 

[Nherwyziant]

unit is attacked is easy to bug

Yes, by rapidly ordering the unit to stop.

 

[Viikuna]

BJs are bad is not any kind of general rule.
Its just that most BJs do completely useless stuff that you dont really wana do, or are just wrappers for some natives, when all they do is add extra function call.

TriggerRegisterAnyUnitEventBJ is cool, because its shorter to type than some loop thingy. Alternatively I suggest you to use Anitarfs SpellEvent system. vJass exists to make system creation easy, so take advantage of it and use and make systems for doing stuff.

The system needed for this would be an attack detection system. ( In other words: a damage detection system with different damage types + spells that actually use those functions. )


Spells are more about the idea, tricks and the artwork anyways. Damage, healing, buff, projectile -systems exist to do the real job. Spell code is just to call some functions from those systems.

 

[Chaos_Knight]

BJs are bad is not any kind of general rule.
Its just that most BJs do completely useless stuff that you dont really wana do, or are just wrappers for some natives, when all they do is add extra function call.

TriggerRegisterAnyUnitEventBJ is cool, because its shorter to type than some loop thingy. Alternatively I suggest you to use Anitarfs SpellEvent system. vJass exists to make system creation easy, so take advantage of it and use and make systems for doing stuff.

The system needed for this would be an attack detection system. ( In other words: a damage detection system with different damage types + spells that actually use those functions. )


Spells are more about the idea, tricks and the artwork anyways. Damage, healing, buff, projectile -systems exist to do the real job. Spell code is just to call some functions from those systems.

So what do you think about this spell?

 

[Viikuna]

Spell idea aint bad actually. Its a simple and pretty nice one.

It just needs some love: some fitting effect for it maybe, or possibly some fading dummy unit trick thingy that remains in front of target for a while. Dont really know.
Every spell needs good animations for caster, but thats model thing and you cant really include it to spell itself.

As for the coding part, you should use systems, like I said already.

Id just modify the spell so, that the unit does extra attack, instead of doing extra damage.

Like this:
Unit damages target with attack, spell triggers.
Spell waits for [lJASS]( attack cooldown -damage point time - some x number ) * attackspeed thingies[/lJASS], and teleports unit behind the target.
Unit plays attack animation very quickly, some trail dummy effects there maybe, target is damaged by attack damage amount, you force all onAttack triggers to run. ( In otherwords: you fake an attack that is faster than the fastest attackspeed makes possible. )

If you decide it to be possible for this extra attack to trigger other extra attacks, you should make the position behind unit to be lil random, so its not always the same place, in case unit doesnt turn.


This however might require some systems that there is not yet released for public, but something more like that might be cool.

 

[Laiev]

So what do you think about this spell?

improve it?

 

[SanKakU]

I don't test it in game... but i assume.. the screenshot is REALLY bad :x



BlackRose just explain it

so...can i replace all if in my map with static if?

 

[BlackRose]

If the if is dependent on a constant global.

 

[SanKakU]

If the if is dependent on a constant global.

so, you're saying static if is for a constant.

if you try to do if whatever and whatever is a constant, it's no good...
but if you do static if whatever and whatever is a constant, then it's good.

so basically if you do static if whatever and whatever does not exist, are you still good?
if so, i'm having a hard time imagining examples of what you're going to use it for. anyone got anything?
wait a minute. how does it work now? do you always say...static if whatever==true ? can you do other stuff with it?

no wait...i think i get it...isn't it just a way to keep people from screwing up the code? i can't think of how it's useful besides making your own debugging system or something like that...

 

[BlackRose]

constant boolean SHOW_ANIMATION = true

static if SHOW_ANIMATION then
    call DestroyEffect( AddSpecialEffect.....
endif

if TRUE = effect made
if FALSE = effect not made
if FALSE = not compiled; since it's constant, cannot be changed, no point in adding it to the script to be run, so ignored by compiler = better

 

[Chaos_Knight]

BUmpety Bumpety bumpety bUmPy

 

[Chaos_Knight]

UPDATE!

Is this enough to be approved?

 

[SanKakU]

ok, if i understand it right...static if is primarily for the sake of JESP coding, right?

does the variable in JESP always have to be a constant?

 

[tooltiperror]

No, the purpose of the static if is to avoid extra compilation you don't need. Let's say you make a library that has a lot of conditional statements in the configurable. It wouldn't make sense to compile a lot of extra code for no reason even though a constant would ignore it.

JESP has nothing to do with it, but static ifs can help it.

Edit: Just realized the configurables are larger than the code.

 

[Laiev]

noob question: JESP = ? (what exactly)

 

[tooltiperror]

Back in the day, mainly before vJASS, Vexorian created a thing you could copy paste to your spells. It was a standard for spells, like saying that you had to have configurables for damage and stuff.

 

[Laiev]

but what is "JESP"... what mean it?

like

Jass = Just Another Syntax Script

 

[SanKakU]

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=88204

Jass
Enhanced
Spell
Pseudotemplate

 

[Chaos_Knight]

This thread has gone a little offtopic...