need suggestions for attachment system

[Doom-Angel]

well i finnaly wanna start learn how to use attachment system and i thought i should start with an easy to learn attachment system (even if it's old and unused anymore) so can anyone tell me which is the easiest to learn for a noob like me who never touched attachment systems?

 

[Rheias]

Attachment system as in handle attachment system? The easiest to use is Kattana's, after that ABC I would say. Just start straight with ABC though, using Kattan's system now days is no less than a sin.

 

[Doom-Angel]

well if you say kattana's i shall try that afterwards i will go on to ABC sooner or later i will try to learn them all....

 

[Arkan]

I recommend CSData, extremely easy to use.

 

[Doom-Angel]

i currently only need easy to learn if you got any easier than kattane's handle tell me

 

[TheDamien]

CSData is about a thousand times easier than handlevars.

 

[Doom-Angel]

k then got any link for a tutorial for CSData?

 

[Arkan]

Here's a typical spell that uses a periodic timer to perform actions, using CSData and structs:

function Trig_Knives_Conditions takes nothing returns boolean
    return GetSpellAbilityId() == 'A01S'
endfunction

struct knivesdata
    player p
    unit caster
    real dmg
    real angle
    integer c
endstruct

function some_timer takes nothing returns nothing
local knivesdata dat = GetCSData(GetExpiredTimer())

if dat.c > 0 then
    //actions
    set dat.c = dat.c - 1
else
    call dat.destroy()
    call ReleaseTimer(GetExpiredTimer())
endif

endfunction

function Trig_Knives_Actions takes nothing returns nothing
local unit caster = GetTriggerUnit()
local timer t = NewTimer()
local knivesdata dat = knivesdata.create()

set dat.caster = caster
set dat.p = GetOwningPlayer(caster)
set dat.dmg = 100
set dat.c = 45
set dat.angle = GetUnitFacing(caster)
call SetCSData(t,dat)

call TimerStart(t,0.02,true,function some_timer)

set caster = null
endfunction

//===========================================================================
function InitTrig_Knives takes nothing returns nothing
    set gg_trg_Knives = CreateTrigger(  )
    call TriggerRegisterAnyUnitEventBJ( gg_trg_Knives, EVENT_PLAYER_UNIT_SPELL_EFFECT )
    call TriggerAddCondition( gg_trg_Knives, Condition( function Trig_Knives_Conditions ) )
    call TriggerAddAction( gg_trg_Knives, function Trig_Knives_Actions )
endfunction

 

[Doom-Angel]

just a question:
does all the attachment systems require NewJassGen?
cause i don't know how to use it.... (please don't bash me )

 

[Rheias]

Kattana's doesn't. But it's slow and unsafe, I don't suggest using it.
As for not knowing how to use vJass, learn! Also, most attaching system only require vJass, but they don't force you to know to it. You can do well enough with regular Jass knowledge, for some of the attaching systems.

 

[Doom-Angel]

how do i learn vJass?
also how do you use JassNewGen?

 

[TheDamien]

I'm fairly sure CSData doesn't need vJass. You should get NewGen anyway, anything that works in normal WE works in NewGen so you won't have to learn anything you don't want to.

 

[Rheias]

You get NewGen pack here (It's a sticky, look up there from time to time ). As for learning it, when you download NewGen you also get a very detailed Read Me, everything you need to know is there.
Finally, there are lots of tutorials around, feel free to check them out.

 

[Doom-Angel]

i already have new gen but i dunno what to do in there and how to use it

 

[Rheias]

As I said, it comes with a manual. Read it.

 

[Doom-Angel]

As I said, it comes with a manual. Read it.

lots to read
well i better start anyway thanks Rheias +Rep

 

[N-a-z-g-u-l]

i dont use newGen, and use attachments, and dont use gamecaches... so that way might interest you

http://www.wc3jass.com/viewtopic.php?p=9040#9040

( it also comes with an example in the description, i personally use that one, made by me )

EDIT: The example uses the global timer variable directly, so you dont need to set a local timer to null, which can cause errors... but you can also use local timers, but then not nullify them

 

[Doom-Angel]

it seems complicated i need something easy to learn.....

Edit: 2000 Posts!

 

[Vexorian]

it seems complicated i need something easy to learn.....

Edit: 2000 Posts!

You don't have to learn the whole vJass manual to learn structs... You just need some basic stuff, you should start with tutorials, really: http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=91491

If this was my call I would stay away from N-a-z-g-u-l's system. For one it is meant just for timers, and it uses a hash table for them. The ironic part of it is that if there is something that doesn't require you to attach things to is the timer object...

 

[Doom-Angel]

thanks for the link vexorian but:

vJass for spell makers (Moving from handle vars to structs)

i never used handle vars is it optional for me to learn from this tutorial?