NewGen version history?

mango

Member
Reaction score
0
Ok, so like many people I got hit by file troubles when blizz patched 1.24 and newgen seemed to stop opening files. I read through about 1000 posts of people with similar problems and the many fixes to opening and tesing old maps with newgen 1.5d, but my problem wasn't as easy as disabling a simple JASS feature... I made the mistake of using the NewGen 'extra' GUI trigger commands in my script (i.e. GUI actions like "Destroy Point" and "Destroy Unit Group"). Now when I run the newest NewGen versions and try to open my map, I get error messages like "Function Does not exist - Destroy Point" and so on. I hope I can fix this by working backwards and just editing my triggers and using Custom Script functions to redo these broken lines, the problem is I can't even find the old versions of NewGen anywhere to open my map :( If anyone knows where to find or has the previous version of NewGen with vJass, it would save me from wasting 100+ hours on this map.

Thanks in advance!!!
 

Tru_Power22

You can change this now in User CP.
Reaction score
144
I don't think new-gen (more specifically UMSWE) ever had function like that. You make have used WEU instead. That program kills maps. You could try turning all code to jass, but I'm sure you don't want to do that.
 

mango

Member
Reaction score
0
I'm almost certain it wasn't WEU, because when I was looking for an editor to start this map I read all sorts of stories about WEU corrupting maps. I hunted WEU down anyway to see it, and it is definitely not program I was using at the time. I remember using JassHelper and Grimoire, which I'm fairly sure are exclusive to NewGen. I do remember using Trigger Actions outside the basic WE standards, they were labelled as "Compatability - " triggers in the editor and not "Advanced - " though.

However, I was able to OPEN my map for the first time in a while using WEU, although I couldn't save because it apparently didn't have a hack to disable the editor limits like NewGen has. How difficult/time-consuming would it be to convert everything to JASS? And is it possible for WEU to ignore limits like doodad limits? If it is possible, I think then I can save the map after editing my broken trigger actions and reopen it in NewGen.

Thanks for the help so far!
 

Tru_Power22

You can change this now in User CP.
Reaction score
144
I'm almost certain it wasn't WEU, because when I was looking for an editor to start this map I read all sorts of stories about WEU corrupting maps. I hunted WEU down anyway to see it, and it is definitely not program I was using at the time. I remember using JassHelper and Grimoire, which I'm fairly sure are exclusive to NewGen. I do remember using Trigger Actions outside the basic WE standards, they were labelled as "Compatability - " triggers in the editor and not "Advanced - " though.

However, I was able to OPEN my map for the first time in a while using WEU, although I couldn't save because it apparently didn't have a hack to disable the editor limits like NewGen has. How difficult/time-consuming would it be to convert everything to JASS? And is it possible for WEU to ignore limits like doodad limits? If it is possible, I think then I can save the map after editing my broken trigger actions and reopen it in NewGen.

Thanks for the help so far!

WEU and newgen don't use the same triggers, so you did originally make your map with WEU. As your your question, um...

You can use a program that comes with WEU. I think it's called no limits or something. It should be in the same folder as the program itself.
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • Varine Varine:
    How can you tell the difference between real traffic and indexing or AI generation bots?
  • The Helper The Helper:
    The bots will show up as users online in the forum software but they do not show up in my stats tracking. I am sure there are bots in the stats but the way alot of the bots treat the site do not show up on the stats
  • Varine Varine:
    I want to build a filtration system for my 3d printer, and that shit is so much more complicated than I thought it would be
  • Varine Varine:
    Apparently ABS emits styrene particulates which can be like .2 micrometers, which idk if the VOC detectors I have can even catch that
  • Varine Varine:
    Anyway I need to get some of those sensors and two air pressure sensors installed before an after the filters, which I need to figure out how to calculate the necessary pressure for and I have yet to find anything that tells me how to actually do that, just the cfm ratings
  • Varine Varine:
    And then I have to set up an arduino board to read those sensors, which I also don't know very much about but I have a whole bunch of crash course things for that
  • Varine Varine:
    These sensors are also a lot more than I thought they would be. Like 5 to 10 each, idk why but I assumed they would be like 2 dollars
  • Varine Varine:
    Another issue I'm learning is that a lot of the air quality sensors don't work at very high ambient temperatures. I'm planning on heating this enclosure to like 60C or so, and that's the upper limit of their functionality
  • Varine Varine:
    Although I don't know if I need to actually actively heat it or just let the plate and hotend bring the ambient temp to whatever it will, but even then I need to figure out an exfiltration for hot air. I think I kind of know what to do but it's still fucking confusing
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Maybe you could find some of that information from AC tech - like how they detect freon and such
  • Varine Varine:
    That's mostly what I've been looking at
  • Varine Varine:
    I don't think I'm dealing with quite the same pressures though, at the very least its a significantly smaller system. For the time being I'm just going to put together a quick scrubby box though and hope it works good enough to not make my house toxic
  • Varine Varine:
    I mean I don't use this enough to pose any significant danger I don't think, but I would still rather not be throwing styrene all over the air
  • The Helper The Helper:
    New dessert added to recipes Southern Pecan Praline Cake https://www.thehelper.net/threads/recipe-southern-pecan-praline-cake.193555/
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Another bot invasion 493 members online most of them bots that do not show up on stats
  • Varine Varine:
    I'm looking at a solid 378 guests, but 3 members. Of which two are me and VSNES. The third is unlisted, which makes me think its a ghost.
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Some members choose invisibility mode
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I bitch about Xenforo sometimes but it really is full featured you just have to really know what you are doing to get the most out of it.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    It is just not easy to fix styles and customize but it definitely can be done
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I do know this - xenforo dropped the ball by not keeping the vbulletin reputation comments as a feature. The loss of the Reputation comments data when we switched to Xenforo really was the death knell for the site when it came to all the users that left. I know I missed it so much and I got way less interested in the site when that feature was gone and I run the site.
  • Blackveiled Blackveiled:
    People love rep, lol
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    The recipe today is Sloppy Joe Casserole - one of my faves LOL https://www.thehelper.net/threads/sloppy-joe-casserole-with-manwich.193585/
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Decided to put up a healthier type recipe to mix it up - Honey Garlic Shrimp Stir-Fry https://www.thehelper.net/threads/recipe-honey-garlic-shrimp-stir-fry.193595/

      The Helper Discord

      Staff online

      Members online

      Affiliates

      Hive Workshop NUON Dome World Editor Tutorials

      Network Sponsors

      Apex Steel Pipe - Buys and sells Steel Pipe.
      Top