World Noah's Ark Found in... Turkey

[Azlier]

The water became the oceans. It just needed time to settle there.

And not all of it rained out of the sky. A good amount came from underground, and is still doing so.

 

[NightShade]

^ even if all the water on earth went to the surface in liquid form it would only go up by about 5-7 km. many mountains would still be exposed.

I think it's possible that there was a flood that the story stemmed from, but got larger and larger by the telling. so in reality the flood wasn't deadly or anything, just unusually high.

so no way is this noah's ark, it's way to far up.

v you need about 1000 animals of one species to have a completely stable genetic pool. with care I'd say you only really need 50-100. if the tale is true it also means that every single plant has evolved within the past 5000 years.

 

[perkeyone]

ya know, if the story of noah's ark is true, then we are all descendants of noah and his family, right?
well someone in noah's family must have had every single std known to man because they didnt come from other people lol.

 

[Razalgrim]

ya know, if the story of noah's ark is true, then we are all descendants of noah and his family, right?
well someone in noah's family must have had every single std known to man because they didnt come from other people lol.

Oh, wow. Okay then, where did the STDs come from BEFORE Noah?

Just an example: the STD AIDS originally came from monkeys. Only a few years ago did it appear. When some idiot in Africa screwed a monkey.

Whatever you're trying to prove, you're not proving it very well.

 

[ReVolver]

Oh, wow. Okay then, where did the STDs come from BEFORE Noah?

Just an example: the STD AIDS originally came from monkeys. Only a few years ago did it appear. When some idiot in Africa screwed a monkey.

Whatever you're trying to prove, you're not proving it very well.

He's confusing what Humans made rather than this "divine being we call God". Plastic wasn't made by God, but by humans so it can't be said that God made plastic or anything else. Now did God make the Ark or did Noah?

 

[Sensang]

I, another christian, also at least doubt this story... I think it COULD be the ark and im pretty sure the flood happened, but thats another story .
But, wheres the point? Nowhere in the bible you can read something about the importance of the ark after the actual flood. There's no reason for a christian to hold on to the thought of the ark being somewhere on the top of the mountain at this moment. It's perfectly natural to believe that it's long gone after 5k years.

But what I like about this thread is that there seem to be some simular minded people on another, maybe not even christians. I really dont think there there is a point in having to disprove anything right away, particularly as a non professional. It's the same with christians who want to disprove anything that might be against the bible or christianity... since you just don't need to believe it.

And unless there hasn't been a 5000 years long study of structures of wood in every possible form of preservation nothing is for granted.

 

[Slayer4000X2008]

Oh, wow. Okay then, where did the STDs come from BEFORE Noah?

Just an example: the STD AIDS originally came from monkeys. Only a few years ago did it appear. When some idiot in Africa screwed a monkey.

Whatever you're trying to prove, you're not proving it very well.

Dure that is not where AIDS came from, that was what the US government said to cover their ass. AIDS was created by the US government in an attempt to destroy the gay population as being gay was unexeptable (terrible spelling FTW )

 

[perkeyone]

Oh, wow. Okay then, where did the STDs come from BEFORE Noah?

Just an example: the STD AIDS originally came from monkeys. Only a few years ago did it appear. When some idiot in Africa screwed a monkey.

Whatever you're trying to prove, you're not proving it very well.

actually, its more commonly accepted that aids spread to humans through contact with contaminated bush meat. (ie a hunter accidentally cut himself while butchering an animal or was bitten)

i never stated anything about the origin of stds, only that if such a bottle neck in the human population occurred (the human population reduced to a single family), then for every human std that exists, at least one member of the family would need to be a carrier. but since you asked, i guess a christian would have to assume that god made std's.

if you can think of some other way for std's to be introduced to the human population feel free to chime in. but please, dont suggest that they all came from sex with animals.

He's confusing what Humans made rather than this "divine being we call God". Plastic wasn't made by God, but by humans so it can't be said that God made plastic or anything else. Now did God make the Ark or did Noah?

in this quote, does "he" refer to me?
because i didnt suggest anywhere in that post that one thing made any other thing.

 

[thewrongvine]

Unless you think enough water appeared to flood the entire earth for an amazing 150 days and then it disappears without going to an outside source (space as he stated) then you believe in magic.

Oh wait, that's precisely what you believe in.

Hi sir, oh I remember you, because we met each other like 20 years ago and are best friends I presume?

So you think the water just flew to space?

What a strange news thread...

~Hai-Bye-Vine~

 

[codemonkey]

ya know, if the story of noah's ark is true, then we are all descendants of noah and his family, right?
well someone in noah's family must have had every single std known to man because they didnt come from other people lol.

actually, its more commonly accepted that aids spread to humans through contact with contaminated bush meat. (ie a hunter accidentally cut himself while butchering an animal or was bitten)

i never stated anything about the origin of stds, only that if such a bottle neck in the human population occurred (the human population reduced to a single family), then for every human std that exists, at least one member of the family would need to be a carrier. but since you asked, i guess a christian would have to assume that god made std's.

if you can think of some other way for std's to be introduced to the human population feel free to chime in. but please, dont suggest that they all came from sex with animals.



in this quote, does "he" refer to me?
because i didnt suggest anywhere in that post that one thing made any other thing.

These are some of the stupidest suggestions I've heard in a long time and I really hope you're trolling. If not....

Ever heard of mutations?

 

[tooltiperror]

Christians don't believe god made everything. Well, they may, depends on the christian.

What about the Church of Christian Science?

 

[perkeyone]

These are some of the stupidest suggestions I've heard in a long time and I really hope you're trolling. If not....

Ever heard of mutations?

if you knew more about mutations, then you wold know that std's are not just simple mutations of other microorganisms. while some may be related, they are entirely separate species. presumably a christian (who interprets the bible literally) doesnt believe that mutations can cause speciation, because if they did, then they would accept the theory evolution instead of a literal noah's ark.

calling something "stupid" isnt a very strong logical argument, if anyone was trolling in this thread i would point the finger at the person calling things "stupid". furthermore you still didnt address the fact that std's main method of transmission is sexual intercourse. so considering the literal interpretation of the story of noah's ark, the most probable explanation for the existence of stds today would be for a member of noah's family to have been a carrier then.

i dont personally believe in noah's ark, so this fact has little bearing on me.

Christians don't believe god made everything. Well, they may, depends on the christian.

they believe god created everything in the natural world if im not mistaken. std's included.

 

[ElderKingpin]

whether or not you guys turn this into a religious flamefest is none of my business. but among some Christians, we dont believe that Noah's ark has been preserved.

 

[Prometheus]

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