NUON Resurrection Checklist

[The Helper]

1. Get a decent working emulator based off of NUANCE

2. Get the authentication key for publishing new games - if we have to setup something like Scatologic did with a brute force method on the Jaguar we need to start now

3. Get the dev tools all in one place and a guide to use them - we definitely do not want to forget the Jeff Minter Sprite Library in this space. Nobody has really used them or reached out to him on what he thought we would be able to do with it.

4. Get in contact with the VM Labs people and see if they have anything they can give us that they have not yet. Richard Miller, we need an interview with him.

 

[Stephen]

That would be quite cool. I'd certainly consider jumping back into some dev with a good working emulator and debugging capabilities.

 

[The Helper]

That would be quite cool. I'd certainly consider jumping back into some dev with a good working emulator and debugging capabilities.

Weren't you the one involved in the NUON Monopoly or is that someone else?

 

[midnight8]

1. Get a decent working emulator based off of NUANCE

2. Get the authentication key for publishing new games - if we have to setup something like Scatologic did with a brute force method on the Jaguar we need to start now

3. Get the dev tools all in one place and a guide to use them - we definitely do not want to forget the Jeff Minter Sprite Library in this space. Nobody has really used them or reached out to him on what he thought we would be able to do with it.

4. Get in contact with the VM Labs people and see if they have anything they can give us that they have not yet. Richard Miller, we need an interview with him.

so, how does the brute force method work on something like this.

 

[midnight8]

and what would we need to make it happen

 

[The Helper]

I don't even know if it is possible to brute force the NUON like the Jaguar. Beyond my current technical skill. I am thinking the Authentication keys are out there they just might take a minute to turn up.

 

[midnight8]

i guess as owner of 3 dvdn501 players i would be ok with games even if they loaded like homebrews.

 

[The Helper]

Yes.

 

[The Helper]

Ahhh, there they are. Looks like the tools are not lost but they do not work in a modern environment. Having the tool is what is most important at this point though

 

[midnight8]

so, we just just need an old linux os?

 

[The Helper]

That is not a problem, I know a guy.

 

[midnight8]

well, linux is free os just have to figure out if the version needed is still out there

 

[midnight8]

nevermind, didn't realize the red hat had to have subscription

 

[midnight8]

from just a quick google search, it says most stuff that runs under red hat linux will also be able to be made to run under ubuntu, so maybe this is a possibility given we can download lots of ubuntu versions. i had an ubuntu laptop, but it died in the flood few years ago. used it for my astronomy and ham radio stuff

 

[Ghan]

The tricky part is that there's a big difference between Red Hat Linux and Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) which is the current iteration.

Red Hat Linux - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Red Hat Enterprise Linux - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The old Red Hat Linux is before my time and I've never used it, but that's probably what they were using for NUON back in the day.

 

[midnight8]

The tricky part is that there's a big difference between Red Hat Linux and Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) which is the current iteration.

Red Hat Linux - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Red Hat Enterprise Linux - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The old Red Hat Linux is before my time and I've never used it, but that's probably what they were using for NUON back in the day.

but what about it running under Ubuntu versions or other distros.

 

[Ghan]

but what about it running under Ubuntu versions or other distros.

No idea unfortunately. It would depend on what language was used, if the source is available, or if any modern libraries could actually run the binaries.

 

[midnight8]

i can find downloads available for ubuntu all the way back to version 4 which was 2004. I could probably download, but i would have no idea how to set this up to try and run it

 

[Stephen]

Weren't you the one involved in the NUON Monopoly or is that someone else?

No - I was not involved in any official products. I just helped debug some homebrews and did some simple demo homebrew stuff.

 

[The Helper]

Apparently the NUANCE emulator can do Tempest 3K totally playable. I have contact with a guy that knows about the Authentication tools and another guy that knows about old versions of linux and can setup emulation systems for certain environments. I am totally confident I can get the Authentication stuff working.