Projectile kills units in its path?

[BlackAlpha]

How do you make it so when a unit fires and shoots trough some other units the projectile, that the unit fired, kills every unit in it's path?

Example: There are 3 units, unit1, unit2 and unit3. Unit1 fires at unit3 and unit2 is standing right between them. The projectile that unit1 fired flies trough unit2, kills unit2, then finally hits unit3 and kills him too.

 

[mems]

i think its possible with modifying Breath of frost or breath of fire spell
Give it enormus demage if you want to kill in 1 shot and give a small radius to this spell and change the missle art as your projectile.

The problem will be is making it an outo cast ability, something about triggers you need which i dont know and asked here

 

[Shadowy Fear]

There is the option 'always autocast' ...

 

[mems]

There is the option 'always autocast' ...

where? how?

 

[Cipher]

what you could do is make it have a good splash radius. THen change the splash damage to some high score like 99999 and then change the actual damage done to the unit targeted to like 10-15 dmg.

Hope this helps.

 

[SD_Ryoko]

That would kill things in a radius, not a line.

If its an ability, I use carrion wave. Change the projectile, distance, width, and damage.

 

[BlackAlpha]

Is it possible to do with a normal attack that uses the attack ground button? The units in my map can only fire with the attack ground button so they are actually always targetting the ground.

EDIT: Nevermind. Carrison Swarm works very nice and I can do some cool stuff with it. Thanks.

 

[BlackAlpha]

It doesn't work as nicely as I thought. Sometimes the projectile doesn't kill for some odd reason. I hit the target dead on and nothing happends but if I move my unit to some other position and fire again it does kill.

These are the settings that I'm using:
Damage 99999
Distance 1500
Final Area 40
Max damage 99999
Cast range 1500
Missle speed 6500

 

[SilverHawk]

Doesn't the NE Ballista have the exact upgrade you are looking for?

 

[UnknowVector]

yes under combat-type (normal, projetile, artillery) one of them is used for just this thing like SilverHawk said the NE Glaive Thorwer has just this thing

 

[Sheezwack]

I made a custom spell to do this recently, for my space invaders map

You see changing the combat type doesnt really work if you want it tooo look right, i tried with the balista etc. In this case it only does the damage when the projectile hits the ground, it looked very strange.

What i did is use a dummy ability which spawned a unit (the missle) for the caster, then ordered the missle to move in the direction the caster was facing.

Now the summoned unit (the missle) i gave disease cloud and remove the effects for thsi, the problem here is that units dont die from being diseased they goto 1 health otherwise it would have been better!

So what you need to do is create a recurring trigger (every x seconds) and get all of the units that have the disease cloud buff on them and kill them.

Obviously if you only want the attack to do damage then get rid of the disease cloud damage and instead of killing them do the damage you want.

Oh also give the unit (missle) locust so that it cant be attacked and can pass through anything.

 

[ThE-eNiGmA]

Couldn't you use something other than disease cloud? You could probably just use triggers to damage the units. Have the unit go from the hero to the target, and as the unit passes through (you figure this out) a trigger damages the unit.

 

[Sheezwack]

Whats wrong with using disease cloud? there are a couple of others you could probably use. I really only used this because i was hoping they would die from the cloud, sux that there is no option for that.

How will your way work? I have used triggers to hurt the unit already, you cant use "unit is in range" because you are creating the unit (maybe if you have a bunch of bullets hidden somewhere on the map but how annoying). How do you intend on triggering the bullet passing thru a unit?

 

[mems]

try the immoloation on netural hostile's infernal instead disase cloud

 

[ThE-eNiGmA]

you send the unit through ( it has no model, so you cant see it, and it has locust, and
just to make sure set collision to zero. Triggers will spawn the unit, and make it move
from the hero to the target. Thought of putting immo on it...anyway, you CAN detect if locations of units are the same, or near enough. If you can do your math, you can make it so that when the location of the bullet is close (about 50-100 range...maybe?) to the location of the unit, it gets damaged. Now, granted, theres one flaw. How do you put the units ahead of the hero into the trigger? One way...that might work, if a bit much, is pick every unit (and check location) This really takes triggers and im doing this out of my head...

 

[SD_Ryoko]

It doesn't work as nicely as I thought. Sometimes the projectile doesn't kill for some odd reason. I hit the target dead on and nothing happends but if I move my unit to some other position and fire again it does kill.

These are the settings that I'm using:
Damage 99999
Distance 1500
Final Area 40
Max damage 99999
Cast range 1500
Missle speed 6500

I think thats because 'Final Area 40' is not a whole hella lot. I understand that making it bigger would be too deadly tho.

Oh, if you try the 'glaive thrower' suggestion, just remember that it will be his normal attack.

 

[Sheezwack]

I dont understand why you would bother going to all that trouble, have you tried using the disease cloud? it works perfectly, you can remove the special effect and it takes 5 minutes to make.

Why bother with all the math to make the trigger 100x more complicated than it needs to be.

edit: actually as posted above, you could use immolation and this would kill the units so its probably a better way and its even simpler.

 

[BlackAlpha]

I think thats because 'Final Area 40' is not a whole hella lot. I understand that making it bigger would be too deadly tho.

Oh, if you try the 'glaive thrower' suggestion, just remember that it will be his normal attack.

I put the final area on 200 and it still didn't work right. I also tried the glaive thrower and it didn't work either so now I'm gonna try to spawn the projectile as a unit with immo.

EDIT: It sort of works but the projectile (the spawning unit) is not fast enough.

 

[Sheezwack]

Yeh that is definately one restriction, make sure in your gameplay constants the max speed is set as high as possible. Should be around 500, and set the unit to this.

The shockwave spell didnt do what you wanted did it? Still i think the projectile speed will be limited.

Actually there is a way to get things to move as fast as you want, i use this for my knockback spells and rocket boosts etc.

Basically when you create the unit and make it face the direction of the caster, put it in a variable, and run another trigger with a fast periodic timer - every time the periodic timer fires move the unit to its current location + (some ammount like 30), facing the direction of (created unit)


You might need a bit of extra stuff to check how far its travelled etc but thats all quite simple, then destroy the uni and turn off the trigger. Be careful if you want more than one player having the ability to use this trigger, you can do it just need to think about the best way.

 

[BlackAlpha]

I tried to use the shockwave ability but it didn't work right either (same problem as with the carrison wave). So I decided to put the missle speed on 2000 and it then worked perfectly. But when I put the missle speed on 2100 it didn't work right again. So I think that there's a bug when you put the missle speed of an ability above 2000 the ability will randomly "miss" the targets.