Nestharus
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This isn't meant to be a debate but more of a discussion. I saw it as an open discussion on every site. Furthermore, it seemed that virtually everyone answered in the same fashion that life was indeed pointless. We're not arguing, we're just sharing what we think and why. There's no real right answer to this as this can't be proven given our scope of reality.
This also contains my standing obviously ; D
This is what I believe to be true. To me, people who don't find life to be pointless are delusional ; ).
Why is reality pointless?
It just happened to happen and there's no end meaning to it, nothing of benefit, or anything. Everything just happens to exist. I'm sure that with more evidence, the idea that reality is pointless will become more apparent. As always, there is a slim chance that reality isn't pointless, that's not probable when looking at elements of our current environment. We can look at how the universe operates to get a probable understanding of reality.
Why is life a curse?
Living a meaningless life is a waste of time. Doing anything is a waste of time. Because of this, I'm personally irritated every second of the day. I'm also disgusted by everything because it is just so messed up. I'm upset that there's nothing I can do to fix it. There is no solution to solving this pointlessness as any solution would result in a static environment, which would inhibit progress, thus making it flawed. Any dynamic environment means that all things within that dynamic environment lead pointless existences and that the dynamic environment will collapse under entropy, meaning it was pointless anyways. So because everything we do is a waste of time, life is a curse as all we can do are meaningless and pointless things, which causes irritation. Personally, I'd rather just die and get out of this bullshit, but all of these delusional people around me would be upset, which to me is more bullshit.
"Whether you accept it or not humans and all forms of life are machines to confront and deal with the infinite problems the universe throws in our paths. Our consciousness places each of us at the center of our universe just as visually all objects decrease in size from each one of our points of view. Thus we get to assume that the universe has us as its target when we are merely embedded in all sorts of general changes. If you start to take the universe and its callous changes personally you get involved with religious nonsenses of a controlling malevolent God or some other sort of paranoia. It helps to stabilize our attitudes and give some mental peace to understand the universe cares no way either for or against us and we must make the best of whatever is neutrally thrown at us."
-Sand
-http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf68689-0-105.html
It is apparent to me that humanity started out in the initial way of thinking that life was pointless and we were just along for the ride. Look at the old Circle of Life.
From here, many humans tried to find a purpose to life as they just couldn't deal with it. People tried to explain the universe, tried to make themselves believe that when they died they would continue to exist and have a purpose and be happy... also people tried to keep others inline.
Well, all of these factors led to many delusional members of humanity. As technology and thinking progresses, there are less and less religious people and more and more people who come to think in the original terms that life is pointless. Most people don't find life as a curse. I only find life as a curse because I can't stand wasting my time and I'm irritated by illogical things. The mere act of living is illogical to me -.-... you go through all of this trouble and for what? Nothing.
I imagine that one final outcome of humanity might be mass suicide = D, or by some radicals, mass destruction of all of reality to fix it, lol. Remember, some people destroy things rather than trying to find a solution to it : P. Again, look at causality. As technology progresses, more and more people find life to be pointless. More and more people become depressed on being shocked out of their delusional state brought on by whatever religion they might have been following. More people become suicidal and even try to kill themselves (many don't because of the bullshit I described above).
effect: progress in technology and thinking
cause: shock and suicidal tendancies
outcome: mass suicides and much smaller populace
Furthermore, I think, entirely from logic, that determinism is the one true way of all things and that free will and chance are illusions.
http://www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/determinism.html
This also contains my standing obviously ; D
This is what I believe to be true. To me, people who don't find life to be pointless are delusional ; ).
Why is reality pointless?
It just happened to happen and there's no end meaning to it, nothing of benefit, or anything. Everything just happens to exist. I'm sure that with more evidence, the idea that reality is pointless will become more apparent. As always, there is a slim chance that reality isn't pointless, that's not probable when looking at elements of our current environment. We can look at how the universe operates to get a probable understanding of reality.
Why is life a curse?
Living a meaningless life is a waste of time. Doing anything is a waste of time. Because of this, I'm personally irritated every second of the day. I'm also disgusted by everything because it is just so messed up. I'm upset that there's nothing I can do to fix it. There is no solution to solving this pointlessness as any solution would result in a static environment, which would inhibit progress, thus making it flawed. Any dynamic environment means that all things within that dynamic environment lead pointless existences and that the dynamic environment will collapse under entropy, meaning it was pointless anyways. So because everything we do is a waste of time, life is a curse as all we can do are meaningless and pointless things, which causes irritation. Personally, I'd rather just die and get out of this bullshit, but all of these delusional people around me would be upset, which to me is more bullshit.
"Whether you accept it or not humans and all forms of life are machines to confront and deal with the infinite problems the universe throws in our paths. Our consciousness places each of us at the center of our universe just as visually all objects decrease in size from each one of our points of view. Thus we get to assume that the universe has us as its target when we are merely embedded in all sorts of general changes. If you start to take the universe and its callous changes personally you get involved with religious nonsenses of a controlling malevolent God or some other sort of paranoia. It helps to stabilize our attitudes and give some mental peace to understand the universe cares no way either for or against us and we must make the best of whatever is neutrally thrown at us."
-Sand
-http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf68689-0-105.html
It is apparent to me that humanity started out in the initial way of thinking that life was pointless and we were just along for the ride. Look at the old Circle of Life.
From here, many humans tried to find a purpose to life as they just couldn't deal with it. People tried to explain the universe, tried to make themselves believe that when they died they would continue to exist and have a purpose and be happy... also people tried to keep others inline.
Well, all of these factors led to many delusional members of humanity. As technology and thinking progresses, there are less and less religious people and more and more people who come to think in the original terms that life is pointless. Most people don't find life as a curse. I only find life as a curse because I can't stand wasting my time and I'm irritated by illogical things. The mere act of living is illogical to me -.-... you go through all of this trouble and for what? Nothing.
I imagine that one final outcome of humanity might be mass suicide = D, or by some radicals, mass destruction of all of reality to fix it, lol. Remember, some people destroy things rather than trying to find a solution to it : P. Again, look at causality. As technology progresses, more and more people find life to be pointless. More and more people become depressed on being shocked out of their delusional state brought on by whatever religion they might have been following. More people become suicidal and even try to kill themselves (many don't because of the bullshit I described above).
effect: progress in technology and thinking
cause: shock and suicidal tendancies
outcome: mass suicides and much smaller populace
Furthermore, I think, entirely from logic, that determinism is the one true way of all things and that free will and chance are illusions.
http://www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/determinism.html
