i've googled it, i've followed the instructions.( got me almost there ) this was very helpful: " With Mdlvis in the animation module select the animation and click delete, then go to the optimizer section in the vertex menu, select only "delete floating kf" and accept. next go to animation an verify in "all line" if there are surviving keyframes. It's rare but sometimes some KF can survive the optimize process, do it manually with supr, and presto. " Himperion helpful indeed, but just a little kf still floating around one patch. I need to delete one little patch of animation from the all line sequence. can some one help me find another resource that can do this? i can't find presto or supr... i need help.