Sci/Tech Russian billionaire reveals real-life 'avatar' plan; will upload his brain to a hologram.

[mushroom911]

However if my idea of how the "soul" works is correct this procedure should not affect it.

 

[KMilz]

he will basically have a new, seperate self which supposedly would always be "him" at that exact moment, I find it hard to believe that electronic conciousness could grow

Why? If we've got the technology to download the consciousness into a machine in the first place, why don't you think we'd have the technology to grant it the capacity to learn new data, too? The biggest issue will just be attaching the right sensory peripherals to the machine brain that recreate the same sensory input functions as our eyes, ears, tongue, nose and nerves. Honestly, compared to the prior task, the latter seems like something we could accomplish today with AI.

 

[FireCat]

Hilarious thread... Well, so I "continue" munching the popcorn!

 

[WildTurkey]

It is similar to the question raised when discussing modern teleporting theory, where each individual molecule is destroyed and recreated at another position therefore killing the original you and creating a new you at a different location. Would you die from this? We don't know

The few simple structures we can do this with are unable to communicate this with us

 

[Varine]

It is similar to the question raised when discussing modern teleporting theory, where each individual molecule is destroyed and recreated at another position therefore killing the original you and creating a new you at a different location. Would you die from this? We don't know

The few simple structures we can do this with are unable to communicate this with us

So we might as well try and see what happens. There would also be additional benefits, as we'd have the capacity to make attempts at forming new peripheral sense and locomotion.

 

[camelCase]

Hilarious thread... Well, so I "continue" 2 troll!

 

[WildTurkey]

So we might as well try and see what happens. There would also be additional benefits, as we'd have the capacity to make attempts at forming new peripheral sense and locomotion.

Further question is if he were to be hacked and subsequently erased, would this constitute murder?

 

[tom_mai78101]

Is this a trick question?

 

[camelCase]

Depends on how thoroughly erased he was. Like, just regular delete or magnet over exposed hard drive erased?

 

[Accname]

Further question is if he were to be hacked and subsequently erased, would this constitute murder?

I dont think murder is defined for the not-living.

 

[tom_mai78101]

I dont think murder is defined for the not-living.

Murdering the non-living counts as murder if you're non-living.

We must go deeper!!

 

[KMilz]

I dont think murder is defined for the not-living.

This is currently true, but may not be considered so for a non-living yet fully sentient something. Good point, though.

 

[FireCat]

There is no such thing as "Immortality" Seriously, to be immortal... means that you have
to watch everyone die "as you live forever In your own body." You can't transfer your consciousness to a fucking avatar.

 

[tom_mai78101]

There is no such thing as "Immortality" Seriously, to be immortal... means that you have
to watch everyone die "as you live forever In your own body." You can't transfer your consciousness to a fucking avatar.

That's actually what we define "immortality" as. If "immortality" is something similar, but it's not like what you've described, then the way we define it would radically change, given enough evidence that there indeed exists the presence of "Immortality".

 

[KMilz]

You can't transfer your consciousness to a fucking avatar.

Why the hell not? If you could possibly describe why it can't be done then I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but given that you couldn't even begin to go into it, I'd ask that you stop spewing bullshit as fact.

 

[FireCat]

Why the hell not?.

Transfer your own brain And you will see!

 

[tom_mai78101]

Brain transplant is still theoretical.

 

[KMilz]

Transfer your own brain And you will see!

That's the end-game, FC.

 

[FireCat]

Seriously, the crazy Billionaire, could make millions "hologram, robot or whatever" with a copy of his fantasy brain. Which one would have his consciousness? Only the original.

 

[KMilz]

No, they'd all have his consciousness, and they'd likely all be separately sentient individuals. There's no reason you couldn't upload the same consciousness into countless robo-brains, unless the soul is a real thing and it's directly tied to your mind and who you are.

I didn't know you were religious, Firecat.