Scaling models

[AceHart]

There was this custom Hero I made, that looked a bit small in size...

Now, I then changed the "Art - scaling value" to make him larger,
which worked fine.

Of course, he couldn't attack anything anymore after...

Back to the object editor, I changed all of the following too:
Art animation - Cast backswing
Art animation - Cast point
Art - Selection scale
Combat - Attack 1 - Animation backswing point
Combat - Attack 1 - Animation damage point

All of them, of course, to the same proportion.

Seems to work just fine.
The model is bigger and he's able to beat things up.


Now, my question, did I forget something?


Yours
AceHart

 

[l2ankor]

hmmm i dont know why you have to change all that shit
i mess with the scale of units all the time and it never messes with their attacks

 

[AceHart]

The particular unit in question is a close-range fighter with a sword.

After changing its scaling value, well...

Attacking some Creeps at night time didn't even wake them up
He was doing his attack animation just fine,
only, there was no damage done.

Well


Yours
AceHart

I'm guessing that "Animation damage point" is the only required change,
but, then, doing them all seems safer.

 

[Mind]

I don't understand how modifying Scaling Values of a unit could prevent it from doing damage or attacking. The cause must lie elsewhere.

 

[AceHart]

Surprising, isn't it?

My current best guess is:
The model is set to do damage at a range of <number><unit>.

Now, with changing the size, the model touches the target sooner, from a greater distance.
However, the do-damage distance has not been reached yet.
So, he's hacking away, thinking he's close enough and nothing happens.


Like I said "my current best guess".

But, and that's a good point, adjusting all other values somehow solved the problem.
And, after all, that's all the problem-solving changes I made.
(I usually don't continue adding stuff while there are still known issues)
There must be some relation.


Yours
AceHart

 

[SD_Ryoko]

Heh heh

I think its because your scaling the model but not the collision size. Scaling the art does not also scale the other fields.

Also, you could try bumping up his attack range a little bit, even if hes melee.

 

[AceHart]

If collision size is used too for damage done to you...
Hmm..., I see this really huge Big Bad Boss... and,
to beat him, you have to, literally, step on its toes...
Could be fun.



Can you walk through walls, if your collision size is 0?
The perfect ghost, bullets and swords simply passing through without touching you...



Yours
AceHart

 

[AceHart]

I seem to remember too (no WE on this comp) a trigger action "unit - scale unit",
or something close to that, but that only goes up to 120%.

Strange though, since you can easily rescale a "1.0" model to, for example, "5.0"...
Of course, at some point, s?he|it will start to look rather edgy

But, you only need 5 steps to cross the map...


Yours
AceHart

 

[SD_Ryoko]

Naw, my TD uses all collision 0 sizes, the jam ups just kept happening and happening. I space the spawns out to make it appear a lot nicer. But they still can't walk through.

Ghost?

Try etheral ability like the night elf casters. Only magic can get em.

 

[Shush]

Originally posted by AceHart
If collision size is used too for damage done to you...
Hmm..., I see this really huge Big Bad Boss... and,
to beat him, you have to, literally, step on its toes...
Could be fun.



Can you walk through walls, if your collision size is 0?
The perfect ghost, bullets and swords simply passing through without touching you...



Yours
AceHart

No, you have to turn the unit's collision size off, 0 collision size doesnt let you pass through things