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Scripting unit/behaviour/weapon/etc. data is possible

Discussion in 'Starcraft 2 (SC2) Editor Help' started by Vestras, May 8, 2010.

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  1. May 10, 2010 #21
    Vestras

    Vestras Retired

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    Can you please elabroate? I'm not sure I understand. But I'm not the maker of Andromeda, so I'm not the one controlling that, but I'm pretty sure that the language will be the same, and integrated in the same tool, if that's what you mean.
     
  2. May 10, 2010 #22
    Lyerae

    Lyerae I keep popping up on this site from time to time.

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    Hmm. You have a point.
    How would that work though? Would you create an entirely new language, or just use a pre-existing language (Lua, Python, etc)?
     
  3. May 10, 2010 #23
    phyrex1an

    phyrex1an Staff Member and irregular helper Staff Member

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    Some pseudocode:
    Code:
    superMarine = do
     m <- extend marine
     increaseLife 200 m
     return m

main = do
      createUnit superMarine player1
    This code would create a new unit type (superMarine) and set its life to 200 more than the normal marine, in game it would create one of those units for player one. Notice how the same variable used for creating the superMarine unit type is used to also create the unit in game. Essentially, "creating unit types" should just be another API in the main language.
     
  4. May 10, 2010 #24
    punwisp

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    How would I send the map
     
  5. May 10, 2010 #25
    Lyerae

    Lyerae I keep popping up on this site from time to time.

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    Upload it, use a filesharing site, FTP...
     
  6. May 11, 2010 #26
    Vestras

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    I'm pretty sure Gex was planning to use Andromeda for it.

    Well, in GMSI Gex had code like:
    Code:
    Map map = loadMap("myMap.w3x");      //Loads a map to the struct Map
map.objects.hpea.Ubertip = "test";   //sets the peasant's ("hpea") ubertip to test
saveMap(map,"myChangedMap.w3x");     //Saves the map to a file
    And if that's done via Andromeda, and all it is really is just another API, then that could be like what you describes. However I don't think Gex want to have that sort of code in generic Andromeda code, since GMSI scripts could be thousands of lines. But I'll talk to him about having access to the map API in generic Andromeda code, could be interesting.
     
  7. May 11, 2010 #27
    punwisp

    punwisp New Member

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    FYI i pmed you a link to the map :3
     
  8. May 11, 2010 #28
    Vestras

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    Yeah I know, just haven't had the time to take a look yet :)
     
  9. May 11, 2010 #29
    gex

    gex New Member

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    Here are my thoughts about a "build script language" for sc2:

    Since I am already developing andromeda and have developed a build tool for WC3 (GMSI), I thought about creating a build tool for SC2 using Andromeda as language (since you already write triggers in andromeda).

    I don't have finished my thoughts but I think it will be possible to embed build code into normal andromeda code/triggers. So it will be possible like you said: Creating unit types in the triggers that use them.

    For example something like that:

    Code:
    class A{
 //... insert normal andromeda code for your game logic here
}

#beginbuild
unittype u = new unittype("Marine"); //Creates a new unit type based on the marine
u.Hp += 200; //The new unit type has 200 hp more than the marine
#endbuild
    Something like that. Of course, the syntax for the build blocks is not yet set, but this is how it is probably gonna look like.

    Of course, there will be mechanisms to avoid duplicate building (if you have already created the marine, you don't want to create it again).

    There will also be mechanisms to control when to execute the build blocks (for example, you want to change the version number in the map name, but only whenever you create a new release of your map).
     
  10. May 13, 2010 #30
    Joker(Div)

    Joker(Div) Always Here..

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    I can't wait for one of these scripting unit tools to come out. Currently, creating a new unit takes waaaay too long. Modifying is a nightmare. :/
     
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  11. May 14, 2010 #31
    Sevion

    Sevion The DIY Ninja

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    Isn't it :-/

    I don't even understand how to make a unit from scratch... What's this shit about "Parent" and whatsis?
     
  12. May 14, 2010 #32
    punwisp

    punwisp New Member

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    Eh....
     
  13. May 14, 2010 #33
    Ancanus

    Ancanus [ancanus@TheHelper.net]# _

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    A parent sets the default values for anything that derives from it.
     
  14. May 14, 2010 #34
    Sevion

    Sevion The DIY Ninja

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    Making a unit from scratch. Does that mean the unit gets default values from null? :p That's what I'm talking about.
     
  15. May 14, 2010 #35
    Lyerae

    Lyerae I keep popping up on this site from time to time.

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    I think new objects inherit from a base object of the same type.
    So, if you make a unit, it inherits the attributes of the base unit type.

    Could be null though. Haven't played with the Data Editor much.
     
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