The Mysterious Fifth Class

[Genkora]

I doubt there will be a healing class. It's diablo, not world of warcraft, people are going to be responsible for their own healing. The 5th class is probably going to be a support class like the paladin or something (although we have only seen about 5 abilities from the classes so far, for all we know the witch doctor could have a skill tree dedicated to support). My guess is some sort of bow wielding class, like a ranger or sniper or god forbid a hunter or something. Although that contradicts my previous assumption, hm.

I can't decide if I like the witch doctor or the monk more.

 

[RedOrb]

Yeh, pretty sure there won't be a healer class. And if there were, no-one would play it. Those orb things drop so who needs anything else? Cool thing about D3, is it doesn't need it's classes to specialise, just balance. So you can get 5 damage dealer classes and they just have different ways of delivery.

I want to see a cool shifter class. It's not easy to make one though.. I personally always felt that the D2 druid was never good. Just OK.
Just think of a type of play, which always starts with the caster, and basically you have to do certain combinations of moves to turn into different shapes. Upon turning you get an amplification of certain stats and abilities like speed, strength etc. and the shifting usually lasts for just a couple of swipes, you know. Not like you turn, and stay in that form for a while. Basically, that would make the shift, always cool, coz you don't see it all the time, and means you can stylise the shifts more too. And, also means you could get MANY types of shift, relating to different combos..

 

[Jaujarahje]

Taken from an interview IGN had with Jay Wilson

IGN: You did mention that it's being revealed next year, and that it's someone from the previous games…

Jay Wilson: I did say that. I probably shouldn't have said that, because we're not sure that's going to be the case. It's just logical, that's what we tend to do. But it may or may not. I'm not gonna answer it, anyway… [laughs]

Q&A is here http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1017305p3.html

 

[Samael88]

Taken from an interview IGN had with Jay Wilson
Q&A is here http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1017305p3.html

One of the things we didn't like about Diablo 2 was that…the story was basically the same story in each act. You showed up in the town and the townspeople said, the demon went thataway. In here, every act is different. The first act is a little bit more of a mystery, there's this cult that has been operating in and around the rebuilt Tristram, you're trying to find out who they are. Act two's a little bit more of an intrigue and deception-focused story, because Belial is in there. Act three, there's a lot more.

Taken from the same interview.
At first it seems like he is talking about D2, if you think that read the third sentence again: "In here,", that means that he is talking about D3, right?
and then check the undelined word!
I underlined the word to make it more noticable.

If you still don't get it, read this spoiler:

Spoiler

Belial is in the second act of Diablo3

Edit: Sorry for going of topic, but I just had to write it somewhere and since I found the link in this thread is seamed odd to post it anywhere else.

 

[Jedimindtrixxx]

hmm belial is only in act2? ida thot hed be frther in the game, hmmm. what about azmodan?

also, whos the father of diablo, mephisto and baal? man i wuldnt wanna mess with him.

ontopic tho, i think blizz would make a lot of people upset if they didnt make a bow class. then again a bow class could be made in expansions. that adds more mysteries. what are te expansion classes?

 

[Samael88]

hmm belial is only in act2? ida thot hed be frther in the game, hmmm. what about azmodan?

also, whos the father of diablo, mephisto and baal? man i wuldnt wanna mess with him.

Perhaps Belial is not the greatest evil in it. If Belial is in there, then you can almost be certain to expect to see Azmodan aswell.
Belial and Azmodan is only lesser evils, on the same rank as Andarial and Duriel We can perhaps expect to see Lucion aswell, since he is the son of Mephisto

ontopic tho, i think blizz would make a lot of people upset if they didnt make a bow class. then again a bow class could be made in expansions. that adds more mysteries. what are te expansion classes?

It would disappoint me a bit, but not much enought to care, I preffer the Barbarian and the Wizard anyway.
I have always found the enemies to be hard to hit with the arrows in D2, I sure hope that they fix that in D3 if they have a Bow-class there

 

[Pineapple]

I think... and I'm fairly sure I'm right... Diablo will be in the game.

If you don't think so watch the cinematic trailer... He demon at the end that roars is Diablo, the soul stone missing from his head.

 

[Jedimindtrixxx]

well yeah i was almost certain diablo is the big bad guy cuz i saw the trailer and im like "diablo!" but i thot belial and azmodan would be nearer to the end, just not bigest bad guy end, cuz those 2 were the ones who planned the dark exile in the first place, and duriel/andy are dead.
anyway i think diablo looks cooler with the soulstone, but hes kickass either way. i never got that. mephisto and baal look ugly and gay but diablo looks kickass. oh well.

i also want a druid in this though. i like the animal summoning from druids rather then the undead summoning from necro (witch doctor now).

 

[Genkora]

Just watch, Blizzard has been playing us all for fools. When the game comes out, the cow king will be the main boss, and he is out for revenge. You'll have to venture into the furthest reaches of the moo moo farm, faced with every form of bovine occult and terror you could imagine. Also, 5th class, Milk Man.

 

[Jaujarahje]

On that note, I think they should keep the secret cow level

 

[Megika]

Going back to the original topic, I think that the final class will be some sort of ranged physical class. Looking at the current classes we have:

Barbarian: Tanky melee fighter.
Witch doctor: Hybrid caster/summoner.
Wizard: Caster.
Monk: Mystical/holy sort of melee. Likely to have less defensive stats than the barbarian, but more defensive skills (my guess).

Comparing to D2:

Barbarian: duh.
Necromancer: Hybrid caster/summoner, although most people just went entirely into one tree.
Sorceress: Caster.
Paladin: Holy melee. Supportive.
Amazon: Ranged physical, unless you go spears.

So what we're currently missing at the moment is a ranged physical class. We might get a bow/spear/javelin class, but they've already said they won't be bringing back any classes from Diablo 2. Well, unless they change their mind. What I'm saying is that I don't think they could really come up with a bow/spear class that isn't an amazon or extremely similar.

So the point of all this is that I'm guessing it will be glaive based. There'll be various glaive skills - you could have a bouncing skill (duh), a piercing skill, a fragmenting skill, or perhaps various skills to imbue your glaives with elemental damages and effects.

They could even divide it into three trees - a passive enhancement, a physical/magic damage based tree, and an elemental damage tree.

 

[Samael88]

There is one problem about that.
Glaives don't really seem to be a Diablo weapon
They just got to have some archer type, that is the only thing missing, they have had it in all the other games

FYI:
A glaive does not bounce IRL! It CAN under the perfect conditions, but it won't if it is thrown correctly and sharp enought

 

[Genkora]

So what we're currently missing at the moment is a ranged physical class. We might get a bow/spear/javelin class, but they've already said they won't be bringing back any classes from Diablo 2. Well, unless they change their mind. What I'm saying is that I don't think they could really come up with a bow/spear class that isn't an amazon or extremely similar.

I disagree, I don't see why a bow class would be unable to differ from the Amazon. If they don't put a bow class in the game, then bows and crossbows will be utterly useless, unless they take those weapons out of the game (which I doubt). Maybe in an expansion or as the 5th class, there will be a bow using class.

 

[sqrage]

>>So what we're currently missing at the moment is a ranged physical class. We might get a bow/spear/javelin class, but they've already said they won't be bringing back any classes from Diablo 2. Well, unless they change their mind. What I'm saying is that I don't think they could really come up with a bow/spear class that isn't an amazon or extremely similar.

Wizard and Sorceress...same thing. Barbarian and Barbarian...

 

[Pineapple]

They had a Rogue, which is not an amazon.

All I'm saying is, when its your job, you CAN think of another bow class... Such as, oh I donno, ARCHER?

And bouncing and glaives? This isn't Warcraft...

 

[Megika]

There is one problem about that.
Glaives don't really seem to be a Diablo weapon

Claws weren't really a Diablo weapon... then they put them in! If you use that sort reason to avoid putting things in, you'll end up with Diablo 2 with shiny graphics.

FYI:
A glaive does not bounce IRL! It CAN under the perfect conditions, but it won't if it is thrown correctly and sharp enought

Well, yeah. Also, arrows don't explode into shards of ice IRL, and it's impossible to call meteors down from the sky using only the power of your mind IRL. Sadly

I disagree, I don't see why a bow class would be unable to differ from the Amazon. If they don't put a bow class in the game, then bows and crossbows will be utterly useless, unless they take those weapons out of the game (which I doubt). Maybe in an expansion or as the 5th class, there will be a bow using class.

All true. What I meant was a bow and spear using class won't be able to differ from the Amazon, in my opinion. This means that either bows or spears would have to go, or they would be, as you say, utterly useless. Personally, I think spears will probably be going, or be modified to a "real" glaive ("other" sort of glaive, if you prefer) and given to the Monk.

Wizard and Sorceress...same thing. Barbarian and Barbarian...

True. I, personally, don't really blame them for either of those - I think it was said that they had the Barbarian as sort of a baseline class, for the other classes to be measured against in terms of coolness (that's just by memory, may be entirely false).

As for the Wizard, what can you really do with a pure caster? The only thing you could really do, IMO, is take them away from pure elemental casting... which they did (Slow Time, Disintegrate etc).

OTOH, there's Jaujarahje's quote from that IGN interview with Jay Wilson. So I dunno.

All I'm saying is, when its your job, you CAN think of another bow class... Such as, oh I donno, ARCHER?

Well, yeah. Like I said to Genkora, it's a bow and spear class that's difficult.

And bouncing and glaives? This isn't Warcraft...

They had Blizzard in Warcraft 2, and then they put it in Diablo 2. They had Raise Dead in Warcraft 2, and Resurrect/Summon Skeleton in Diablo 2. I don't think they would let the fact it's in Warcraft 3 stop them.

 

[Dakho]

Some sort of rogue/ranger hybrid. Using a bow/crossbow, and avoiding melee combat with a variety of stealth and traps.

 

[Samael88]

Claws weren't really a Diablo weapon... then they put them in! If you use that sort reason to avoid putting things in, you'll end up with Diablo 2 with shiny graphics.

I was not talking about it as not being diablo like in the means of it being a bad weapon for diablo. The claws for example has been used in combat IRL.
Any person tried using a glaive in combat by bouncing it of a wall, then I would laught my brains out
I think that those kind of fantasy weapons are more warcraft weapons. Diablo has always had a certain touch of realism to it when it comes to weapons, I for one would hate to see that go away beacuse of a glaive

Well, yeah. Also, arrows don't explode into shards of ice IRL, and it's impossible to call meteors down from the sky using only the power of your mind IRL. Sadly

Just beacuse it has not been done it does not mean that it is impossible
And FYI, the exploding ice arrows have been tested and worked pretty well, they just turned out to be a bit of an inconvengance when cleaning up afterwards. Liquid nitrogen and a small explosion does the trick in a really primitive and brutal way you know

Edit:

Some sort of rogue/ranger hybrid. Using a bow/crossbow, and avoiding melee combat with a variety of stealth and traps.

That sounds like the most logical one for now. It has to be a ranged, it just has to be

 

[ZugZugZealot]

Monk is more like the assassin as far as Diablo II goes. There was a monk class in Hellfire (diablo 1 expansion.


Assassin did get a glaive-type move with non-elemental traps.


I would prefer it if bows were used on a wider range of characters... I felt that adding Amazon specific bows in Lord of Destruction was redundant as hell, since no other class could even make use of bows aside from maybe enchant sorc with the guided arrow for any class bow. Though I suppose I did use bows on the barb, but only was used for when I had iron maiden on me while waiting for it to go away.

A character style that could fit in the Paladin role and not be a paladin, would be a samurai style character... Samurai are rather spiritual and honor based... The difference would be Samurai would have less auras if any, and would have bow skills.

 

[Bartuc08]

This guess comes from this:
If I have understood it correctly the worldstone was what prevented the "humans" from being powerfull, they have the capability of being greater than the demons and angels alike. And since that has been destroyed, they could be at the same "power-level", hence the angels could be a playable race

WHAT ARE HIS POWER LEVEL!?!?!?!

now that i got that out of my system...

Why do you think they have to follow the norm of their previous game, the 5th class for all we know could very well be another melee class, and they could say "yea, we're done with bows"

or hell, they might even introduce guns... i doubt it, but y never know.

I personally could care less what the 5th class is, I'm just glad the Monk is back in action