The Red Cross is a joke imo

[-fool-]

They are an organization dedicating to helping people actually is full of crap, and doesnt do much. First off they are very very miniscule compared to any other efforts launched by people where they help. The only time the red cross makes a real difference, is when they are the only people helping. Other than that, they are dwarfed compared to other programs.

Look at new orleans. Red Cross rasied 500 million dollars. Good? Who gives a crap. The government put out 50 billion in immediate needs. Thats 50,000 million. 100 times as much as the red cross raised. The red cross as well is more interested in getting statistics out of thier accomplishments than anything else. They have 500 million dollars, they got to be getting something done.. so they feed people and get the number on every tv station out there. million meals, 2 million, 3 million. Not to mention they were NEVER in New Orleans. They didnt help the people stranded in new orleans EVER. They helped the people who were already at shelters and already had food. The people who had to loot grocery stores for food really were on thier own. Red Cross was never in New Orleans. Didnt hear that Statistic? What percent of time did Red Cross spend in New Orleans? 0%. More stats red cross, please.

How about thier stats. Thier commitments. Currenty they say 91 cents of your dollar goes to the humanitarian effort. EXTREMELY VAGUE. That means right off the bat basically a tenth of your money is gone solely to pay for employees. It wont help anyone. And i wouldnt put it behind the red cross to put employee salaries under the label of "humanitarian effort" as well. That 9% they take could just be profit, helping to pay the $250,000+ salary of the head director of a non-profit volunteer staffed organization. They got what, 40,000 volunteers. Thats 120,000 meals they need to serve a day.. That sure buffs thier stats a bit. 1 million meals served sure. How many of that was to your own volunteers instead of the people suffering.

That 91 cents you send usually is 25 cents go direct aid. 25%. A quarter of what you send is direct aid relief. You give $100 only $25 actually helps someone. 25% is direct relifief. 25% usually goes to a general fund set up for any disaster they want to give for. Before 9-11 all money set for relief was put in a general fund and spent whereever they wanted. Then people got pissed off because they were donating for 9-11 and it wasnt being spent there. There was a major scandal. Missapropriation of funds was revealed, the head director quit. Red Cross = POS. They changed it now so you can say where the money goes. Now they have a Gulf Coast fund or Hurricane fund im not sure. Either way thats an exTREMELY broad topic of relief.

the other 41 cents is spent on other stuff (its actually really hard to find sites that discuss where rc spends thier money. I did see that for the tsunami relief all they did was give money to the indonesian government, a very small poriton of what they raised, and the gvt. would spend it on relief. In case you live under a rock the indonesian gvt. kind of sucks ass, and its no secret, and they spent the money on weapons to use against thier own people). I also saw how they accept other organizations under the red cross, and muslim ones (but its called a red cresent becasue the islamic symbol isnt a cross its a cresent of a moon. so red cresent). But they refused to accept jewish/israeli organizations because they use a star (star of david). I tohught that was a bit messed up. They refused a humanitarian organization beause of its symbol? anti-semittic imo.

Dont give to red cross. red cross sells blood to hospitals and blood banks, red cross sells donated goods. red cross really doesnt raise that much in comparison to anything else. red cross is a corrupt agency. give your money somewhere that actually does something. salvation army > red cross.

http://www.redcross.org/pressrelease/0,1077,0_172_4536,00.html <-- 91 cents of every dollar
http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html <-- never in new orleans

 

[pladams9]

One, of course the Red Cross is going to need money. Other than donations, etc. they have no income. Two, the reasons for them not being in New Orleans all seem pretty clear to me, and they all seem like good reasons. They'd only be in danger and in the way. Also the reason they probably seem dwarfed in comparison to other organizations is because they are giving aid all over the world. And again they depend on the donations of others. Could it be that they couldn't give more money, or at the very least not $50 billion. And, come on, that's the U.S. Government! They probably have a lot more money than the Red Cross. And $500 million is still a lot.

As for being anti-semitic, I don't know. I'd have to look into it.

I also wish that people would stop criticizing everyone else's work. If they spent less time talking about it and more time helping the people that they say aren't being helped, then guess what? Those people would have bunches more help.

 

[DM Cross]

I also wish that people would stop criticizing everyone else's work. If they spent less time talking about it and more time helping the people that they say aren't being helped, then guess what? Those people would have bunches more help.

You, sir, are being repped. And recommended for Special membershipness, if you're not already, because I have been making this point time and again.

Person 1: I have a problem with <insert bs topic here>
Person 2: Really? I have a problem with the fact that I really don't give a shit! Have a nice day, sir.
Person 1: ... I just got owned -.-

Maybe it's just for discussion and debate, which I guess is cool, but it just... Irritates me about this topic in particular (That topic being New Orleans)

I think Foamy the Squirrel said it best when he said the following:

If you're in the area: Help.
If you're a reporter in the area: Stop reporting, and HELP!
If you're a resident in the area: Stop looting, and HELP!
If you're a jerk-off news caster sitting behind your desk, smiling as you watch your ratings go up: Go KILL YOURSELF!

Infoulable logic, right there man.

 

[XXXconanXXX]

Disasters and occurences like these seem to bring up many controversial issues and arguments. In the past week, we've had five(?) or so arguments over Louisiana.

You know, if I could, I would donate a handsome sum for Louisiana, but I can't because my 'income' is tightly watched.

There is one thing I refuse to do: I am NEVER helping at the Astrodome. I know they've lost everything and all, but that is NO EXCUSE for stealing TWELVE Plasma screen T.V.'s from the Astrodome. If I lived somewhere else, this wouldn't be such a problem, but the thing is: One of my mom's close friends, HAS TO PAY FOR IT.

Oh, and, only 3 women have been raped in the Astrodome. Geez people, what a way to show your gratitude!

 

[pladams9]

I just hope more permanent living arrangements can be made quickly, it must be terrible in there. Think about all the families with children. No room, no privacy; those people need out. And anyone taking advantage of this situation (looters, rapists) should be shot on site. Can you believe that the entire city of New Orleans is (or was) under water and people are out there stealing anything that's still dry?

Here's an interesting question. You're stuck in the Astrodome until you can go live somewhere else. What are you going to do with a plasma screen TV? You can't use it right now, and who are you going to sell it to?

 

[w/e]

Person 1: I have a problem with <insert bs topic here>

ROFL

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/weather/090405_APkatrina_superdomediary.html

 

[pladams9]

Why are you laughing?

 

[Cognitor]

Look at new orleans. Red Cross rasied 500 million dollars. Good? Who gives a crap.

You can't compare the spending power of the two. I'm curious as to how much you believe is a good amount.

How about thier stats. Thier commitments. Currenty they say 91 cents of your dollar goes to the humanitarian effort. EXTREMELY VAGUE. That means right off the bat basically a tenth of your money is gone solely to pay for employees. It wont help anyone...

So 450 million won't help anyone?
The site you provided shows that about 97% of workers are volunteer workers. So 35,000 people are being paid with 50 million. That's not a lot to go around if you consider the cost of trucks, gas, food, medicine, clothes, overtime, etc.

And i wouldnt put it behind the red cross to put employee salaries under the label of "humanitarian effort" as well. That 9% they take could just be profit, helping to pay the $250,000+ salary of the head director of a non-profit volunteer staffed organization. They got what, 40,000 volunteers. Thats 120,000 meals they need to serve a day.. That sure buffs thier stats a bit. 1 million meals served sure. How many of that was to your own volunteers instead of the people suffering.

Have any proof or basis for such serious cliams?

That 91 cents you send usually is 25 cents go direct aid. 25%. A quarter of what you send is direct aid relief. You give $100 only $25 actually helps someone. 25% is direct relifief. 25% usually goes to a general fund set up for any disaster they want to give for...The other 41 cents is spent on other stuff (its actually really hard to find sites that discuss where rc spends thier money.

It sounds like your making this up. The site you provided does not support what you are saying. Where did you get that only 25% goes to direct aid?

Dont give to red cross. red cross sells blood to hospitals and blood banks, red cross sells donated goods. red cross really doesnt raise that much in comparison to anything else. red cross is a corrupt agency. give your money somewhere that actually does something. salvation army > red cross.

What are they suppost to do with the blood? They can't administer it themselves...hense hospitols do it. Where did you get that they sell donated goods? Do you have proof of ANY of these claims? I'm not saying you're wrong, but at this point I find no reason to believe any of what you say for lack of proof.