Unit and Spell Balancing

HeX.16

Isn't Trollin You Right Now
Does anyone have a good method or tool to help me with this. Dont say Excel(i dont have it). If you can point me too it or explain a good way to do it.
 

Accname

2D-Graphics enthusiast
i always did it by sentience. (was that correct english? using dictionarys sucks.)
i dont think there is like a "tool" to balance a map. balancing is something too complicate for a simple tool to manage, because you have to keep in mind synergy, possible item/hero/skill combinations and so on and so on.
as a rule i think the following sentence might be helpful:
"If i would use the ability, while i wouldnt think it would be imbalanced if my enemy got it, its balanced."
 

HeX.16

Isn't Trollin You Right Now
I get what your saying Accname.

For this all i need is a way to balance Damage. Lets start with that xD
 

mapguy

New Member
Create a system of points for each thing. armor, attack, AS, MS and then you will decide how much points each unit has.

example:
1 damage = 1 point.
1 armor = 4 points.
2% attack speed = 1 point.
10 movement = 1 point
 

HeX.16

Isn't Trollin You Right Now
I guess that could work. But when i think about it i see that as lots of work. Work is something i avoid. Im just going with gut feeling xD
 

mapguy

New Member
I guess that could work. But when i think about it i see that as lots of work. Work is something i avoid. Im just going with gut feeling xD
YOu are working on a footman frenzy map, right?
make it random, players get random creeps, so, there is no reason to HYPER BALANCE, your game will be 20% luck, 80% strategy.
for example, get 3 barracks, each one produces ONE random creep type that can be upgraded
 
This is an article posted by an employee of Blizzard. Here you can find a couple of balancing formulas, such as:

Game Impact * Durability = Effectiveness
Square root (Game Impact * Durability/Cost^2) = cost effectivenes
Reduction in Effectiveness (to smaller units) = .5 + .5(Number of Large / Number of Small for the same cost)


The article focuses mainly on teaching how you are supposed to think when balancing though. But there might be something of value in it for you...

EDIT: When you try to balance spells and such, you can use a variation of the first formula:

Damage(Game Impact) * Manacost (Durability)

But even using these formulas you must still take additional variables in to account, such as cooldown, the units maximum mana, maximum mana growth, number of units affected etc.
 

HeX.16

Isn't Trollin You Right Now
The above post has a brilliant method. Im busy figuring out my own Formula to do it though xD
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Food trucks are killing out here because Bars cannot open unless they sell food and the governor ok'd the use of a food truck in front as serving food
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Just not enough food trucks
  • The Helper The Helper:
    a buddy of mine just opened up a food truck and he is killing it but he is a great cook and has awesome food right in the middle of the pandemic too food trucks are immune to pandemic because they are take out in Texas you will always be able to get take out or delivery
  • The Helper The Helper:
    He is in the different food facebook groups in houston and posts videos of him making his food
  • The Helper The Helper:
    he is killing it
  • jonas jonas:
    @Varine with the restaurants, there surely is a lot of luck and hard work but most restaurants fail because they suck. Flair isn't right, economics not well thought through, food is mediocre or sucks, location is bad, etc. If you're thinking about opening one, make sure you're looking at the stories of those that would be playing at your level, don't let your hopes be dragged down by all the subpar restaurants out there.
  • jonas jonas:
    I'm a bit worried about the future of data science, there's an influx of incompetent people hired by incompetent managers, that can't last. But I'm sure smart data scientists will always be useful and hireable. Same as smart security people.
  • jonas jonas:
    My sister in law worked in a vegan food truck, the owners were also making a killing, added several trucks and opened two restaurants over 5 years
  • Ghan Ghan:
    The CompTIA stuff is pretty much crap unfortunately. The places that ask for those low-level certs aren't likely places you want to work. For IT you really want a degree, but in the meantime you need to figure out some way to learn the skills. Cybersecurity is really hot right now so competition is fierce.
  • tom_mai78101 tom_mai78101:
    I realized I don't have anything much to say, other than "Good luck!". Compared to other places, I'm just very lucky we didn't have a lot of surges of cases coming in.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    My daughter just got back from school at Georgetown TX, outside of Austin and said there were 100 cases in the last week but she also said nobody was wearing a mask anywhere so people mask up and stay safe!
    +2
  • thewrongvine thewrongvine:
    happy thanksgiving folks!
    +1
  • Ralle Ralle:
    PLOOB
  • Varine Varine:
    @Gyah Yeah I figured they aren't particularly valuable, but they'll at the least act as a baseline for some entry level work somewhere.
  • Varine Varine:
    I now see how horribly I spelled @Ghan
  • Varine Varine:
    I had a rough morning
  • The Helper The Helper:
    that field is going to explode and though there is competition there is going to be room for all levels in the coming years imho.
  • tom_mai78101 tom_mai78101:
    Why are we competing for rough mornings? :(
  • Varine Varine:
    I don't want to compete for that, yall can have it.
  • Varine Varine:
    @The Helper I'm trying. Once I am more prepared to be figuring out school I'll probably ask for your advice
  • Varine Varine:
    Right now I'm just trying to get through the pandemic and figure out how I'm going to pay for it, and figure out what I need to get a job at Best Buy instead of a kitchen somewhere.
  • thewrongvine thewrongvine:
    oy just catching up on the discussion above. @Varine yeah I usually alternate between claritin & zyrtec, depending on whatever my body decides to reject at the time lol
  • thewrongvine thewrongvine:
    the more I use it the less effective it gets over time as my body accustoms to it so I try to not use it every day
  • S songbird:
    Glad to see some interest in the IS3 NUON reprint. :)
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Thank you Carl for making that happen that just might be the spark we need.

    Members online

    Affiliates

    Hive Workshop
    Top