World Unrest in the Middle East

[Slayer4000X2008]

k imagine this. We are trying to revolt against the Canadian government, and they decide to fire back at us, and all of a sudden Spain comes in trying to help us and throwing around their influences while they are at it, just because it is affecting their maple syrup prices.

Your comparing maple syrup with oil? I'm sorry but that is very retarded, that was a comparison that should never have been made. Let's look at this, maple syrup goes on food to make it taste better. Why, well because you can. Oil is needed for developed nations like: Canada, US, UK, Australia, etc. to function. Oil is our primary source of fuel and without it, sooner or later things could go to shit. I still believe forgeign aid is needed over there, and I hope that aid will come soon.

 

[Wiseman_2]

Your comparing maple syrup with oil? I'm sorry but that is very retarded, that was a comparison that should never have been made. Let's look at this, maple syrup goes on food to make it taste better. Why, well because you can. Oil is needed for developed nations like: Canada, US, UK, Australia, etc. to function. Oil is our primary source of fuel and without it, sooner or later things could go to shit. I still believe forgeign aid is needed over there, and I hope that aid will come soon.

Maple syrup wasn't the point, the point was a foreign power intervening in a localised conflict. Say, if China suddenly threw its weight about in a war between England and France.

 

[Jedimindtrixxx]

Your comparing maple syrup with oil? I'm sorry but that is very retarded, that was a comparison that should never have been made. Let's look at this, maple syrup goes on food to make it taste better. Why, well because you can. Oil is needed for developed nations like: Canada, US, UK, Australia, etc. to function. Oil is our primary source of fuel and without it, sooner or later things could go to shit. I still believe forgeign aid is needed over there, and I hope that aid will come soon.

Like Wiseman said.

Ok lets put it into oil terms if your so all over it. Say spain says screw the middle east, and starts buying all its oil from canada (we have the 2nd largest amount after SaudiArabia). We are trying to revolt against the Canadian government, and they decide to fire back at us, and all of a sudden Spain comes in trying to help us and throwing around their influences while they are at it, just because it is affecting their [del]maple syrup[/del] oil prices.


Now you can worry about the main problem: Foreign intervention rather than maple syrup.

 

[Slayer4000X2008]

Maple syrup wasn't the point, the point was a foreign power intervening in a localised conflict. Say, if China suddenly threw its weight about in a war between England and France.

As I said in another post, there are times when such involment is needed. If China went to war with England and France while they were at war that would be a different story but if they chose to help one of the two then I don't see any problem with it.

Like Wiseman said.

Ok lets put it into oil terms if your so all over it. Say spain says screw the middle east, and starts buying all its oil from canada (we have the 2nd largest amount after SaudiArabia). We are trying to revolt against the Canadian government, and they decide to fire back at us, and all of a sudden Spain comes in trying to help us and throwing around their influences while they are at it, just because it is affecting their [del]maple syrup[/del] oil prices.


Now you can worry about the main problem: Foreign intervention rather than maple syrup.

Same thing as I just said to Wiseman. Now I will focus more on spain coming in and getting involved in a civil war here (I'm about to get historical on you here). Around the time of WW2 (before or after I don't remember) Spain was in a civil war, know who got involved in that. Canadians, why, because we knew this was a time when they NEEDED foreign aid. Korea was a civil war, foreign aid was needed and was given. This is another of those times, with Spain and Korea aid was needed for them, but if they didn't get it well other countries wouldn't had been effected the way they are now. This time aid is needed more, so why not give it. I stand by my beliefs, you can go ahead and stand by yours, don't bother me none.

*Directed at both of you* Your right I did miss the point. Such things are not my strong point, so I apologize for missing the point (hopefully I didn't miss it again).

 

[Jedimindtrixxx]

I just don't feel that other countries should interfere in foreign things that don't pertain to them.

That said I am NOT saying that the UN shouldn't intervene. I think they need Peacekeepers over there.
And on that note GJ on the UN for passing the no-fly zone over Libya. Go people of Libya.
Although it sorta makes me wonder... Egypt, Libya and all those other countries got those leaders through revolution. Lets hope history just doesn't repeat itself.

 

[Varine]

They should be. They're protecting their interests. Perhaps a little better than syrup: say someone could possibly give you a lot of money for very little in exchange. And someone is planning on hurting and/or killing the other person and taking control of what could be a flow of money to you. Would it not be in your common sense to protect the one you want to win if you have the ability to do so?

 

[Jedimindtrixxx]

well if i was a politican obv but im looking at this through the eyes of a civilian (me).

 

[Varine]

Well what do you think I am?

 

[Slayer4000X2008]

Well it seems what I wanted to happen has happened. Canada, America, France, Britian, and Italy (maybe more, not sure) have declared war on Gaddafi.

 

[Wiseman_2]

Several countries from the Arab Nations have also pedged support (cannot remember which ones though). This is a good thing, as it will no longer seem like total Western intervention, showing that we are not the only ones who want Gaddafi's head on a spike.

 

[The Helper]

Libya: US, UK and France attack Gaddafi forces

The UK, US and France have attacked Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi's forces in the first action to enforce a UN-mandated no-fly zone.

Pentagon officials say the US and the UK have fired more than 110 missiles, while French planes struck pro-Gaddafi forces attacking rebel-held Benghazi.

Col Gaddafi has vowed retaliation and said he would open arms depots to the people to defend Libya.

Cruise missiles hit air-defence sites in the capital, Tripoli, and Misrata.

More.

 

[Varine]

Let's move the forces that are in Iraq out of Iraq since that was supposed to be done with like two years ago, and just put them in Libya? At least they'd have something to do.

 

[Slayer4000X2008]

There's more then just Iraq going on in the Middle East. There is also the war in Afganistan. Now Afganistan has so far been more of a success (or so it seems the way I look at it), so why send troops from Iraq to Libya? Libya is far more likely to be over quickly sence we can identify enemy fighters on sight, Afganistan however that is not the case. They need more troops over there, especially sense Canada is ending it's combat rule in June. I say if we take any troops from Irag they should be either: A) Sent home or B) Sent to Afganistan. Atleast that's my opinion, I see Libya has less of a priority.

 

[Varine]

It was a joke.

 

[The Helper]

Deaths as Syrian forces fire on protesters

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Syrian security forces have opened fire on anti-government protesters in the city of Sanamin near Daraa, killing at least 20 people, according to one witness.

"There are more than 20 martyrs .... they [security forces] opened fire haphazardly," the witness told Al Jazeera on Friday.

Rula Amin, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Damascus, said Syrian forces apparently fired after protesters set fire to a statue of the late president, Hafez al-Assad.

Footage on YouTube also showed protesters in the cental square of Daraa dismantling a portrait of his son, Bashar al-Assad, the current president.

Read the news here.

 

[Varine]

God damn it. This is almost EXACTLY what happens in our game's storyline. Way to go RL, you took a great piece of fiction I wrote, and now it's not original. Now we're just copying what happened.

 

[The Helper]

Yemeni militants seize control of weapons factory

SANAA, Yemen (AP) - Islamic militants seized control of a weapons factory, a strategic mountain and a nearby town in the southern Yemen province of Abyan Sunday, said a witness and security officials, as a political stalemate in the capital causes security to unravel around the country.

The fragile nation has been rocked by weeks of mass protests against the long-serving president Ali Abdullah Saleh, who refuses to step down.

Saleh's fate is of deep concern to the U.S. as he is a key ally in the fight against al-Qaida, but with his attention on massive anti-government protests in the capital, security has declined in the provinces.

Residents of the southern Abyan province said police reduced their presence in towns weeks ago. Elsewhere, residents have pushed out police and soldiers and set up their own local militias for self defense.

More.

 

[The Helper]

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