Some help for my map...

[crystal.maiden_19]

Sorry, for double post, I can't edit it, since the trigger always messed up if I did... I forgot to mention the number 1280.00 that is used in the trigger was the Abilities (Art - Missile Speed), or should I store it as Real variables too...?

 

[Accname]

Make the missle a unit, have the unit travel to its target, when the missle reaches the target activate the trigger.
There is no simple way to detect whether a wc3 standard missle has reached its target. The only event that is being fired is the "UnitTakesDamage" event, but its hard to filter out false positives.

 

[crystal.maiden_19]

Make the missle a unit, have the unit travel to its target, when the missle reaches the target activate the trigger.

Create a dummy just to see a missile hits...? Isn't that too excessive...? Its just a missile and does nothing actually...

There is no simple way to detect whether a wc3 standard missle has reached its target. The only event that is being fired is the "UnitTakesDamage" event, but its hard to filter out false positives.

Yeah I'd tried that before and it doesn't work...

 

[Accname]

Create a dummy just to see a missile hits...? Isn't that too excessive...? Its just a missile and does nothing actually...

Blame the wc3 engine. Its good, but its not perfect.

 

[Solu9]

Create a dummy just to see a missile hits...? Isn't that too excessive...? Its just a missile and does nothing actually...

Perhaps. But it has proven the best way to detect missiles.

 

[crystal.maiden_19]

Okay, thanks for your answer, but what if I sued timer to "wait" the actual missile hits...? is there any differences with using dummy unit as a missile...? And what's the problem that might happen if I usde timer...?


Edit: used...

 

[Solu9]

What if the target unit moves while the missile travels?

 

[Accname]

You dont know how long it takes until the missle hits its target.
The target might move, might get teleported, might blink away, might die, etc.

When you use a missle you can give it a timed life or invalidate it when the target is teleported away / blinked. You can also remove the missle when the target dies or other nasty things happen. Imagine the target uses some kind of incinvibility ability or cloaking or anything. In those circumstances you dont want the missle to hit, but a timer is not able to detect that.

 

[crystal.maiden_19]

Blast...! I didn't think about that before...! Thanks, that makes the only option is make a dummy unit as missile, thanks guys...

 

[crystal.maiden_19]

Hey guys, my project is being halted until further notice, due to recently power outage issue...
I hope you're still want to help me when I start running it back on...

 

[vypur85]

> due to recently power outage issue...
Aha. This is new. Though not surprisingly.
Oh well, looking forward for your comeback though.

 

[crystal.maiden_19]

Hi guys, I'm back, with some trouble...
I'm trying to un-channel Blizzard ability - creates a dummy to cast the Blizzard...
But, I got problems here, the dummy only cast the Blizzard for just 1 wave then got removed, which the dummy ability has 6 waves' blizzard...
Here're the triggers:

• blizzard unchannel cast
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Blizzard unchannel
  • Actions
    • Set bu_point_caster = (Position of (Triggering unit))
    • Set bu_point_target = (Target point of ability being cast)
    • Unit - Create 1 blizzard dummy for (Owner of (Triggering unit)) at bu_point_caster facing (Angle from bu_point_caster to bu_point_caster) degrees
    • Unit - Set level of Blizzard (dummy) for (Last created unit) to (Level of Blizzard unchannel for (Triggering unit))
    • Unit - Add a 10.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Last created unit)
    • Unit - Order (Last created unit) to Human Archmage - Blizzard bu_point_target
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_bu_point_caster)
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_bu_point_target)

• blizzard unchannel stop
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Finishes casting an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Blizzard (dummy)
    • (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) Equal to blizzard dummy
  • Actions
    • Unit - Remove (Triggering unit) from the game

So, is there any idea why those triggers above doesn't work like what I want...?

 

[Solu9]

There is no reason for the second trigger.
The generic expiration timer in the first trigger removes the unit from the game when it expires.

 

[crystal.maiden_19]

There is no reason for the second trigger.
The generic expiration timer in the first trigger removes the unit from the game when it expires.

Ok, but what about the first trigger...? I don't have any idea what went wrong...

 

[Solu9]

First off.
Do is your dummy unit invulnerable and does it have the locust ability?

 

[vypur85]

The first trigger seems fine. The issue lies in the game AI. It's pretty annoying sometimes. I have no idea how to go about dealing with this.

For me, the best workaround is to recreate the whole damn ability using trigger.

 

[Solu9]

In my experience a channel ability like Blizzard works fine if the dummy unit is owned by a player, neutral hostile, or an AI NOT set to anything specific in the Player Properties. So I doubt it is because of the AI in this case.
But I agree. The AI can screw up a lot.

 

[vypur85]

Well, I've had this problems before myself too.
And the annoying thing is that it happens in random.
Sometimes it works but sometimes shit happens.

Both of the trigger look pretty fine to me.
If the AI issue is not it, then it definitely is your Object Editor issue.

> The AI can screw up a lot.
True that.

 

[Accname]

I have never had problems with a dummy unit casting blizzard.
If everything in the object editor is set up correctly this should work as long as the dummy unit does not get stunned / killed / silenced in some way.

 

[crystal.maiden_19]

First off.
Do is your dummy unit invulnerable and does it have the locust ability?

Nope, its not invulnerable, but it has locust...

Well, I've had this problems before myself too.
And the annoying thing is that it happens in random.
Sometimes it works but sometimes shit happens.

Both of the trigger look pretty fine to me.
If the AI issue is not it, then it definitely is your Object Editor issue.

> The AI can screw up a lot.
True that.

I have never had problems with a dummy unit casting blizzard.
If everything in the object editor is set up correctly this should work as long as the dummy unit does not get stunned / killed / silenced in some way.

Ok, the only thing I've change in World Editor is:
- Art - Animation Names: - (since the dummy has no model)
- Stats - Hero Ability: False (because I've seen some spell doesn't work since the dummy is a unit, not hero)
- Level [1, 2, 3] - Cast Range: 99999.00 (because the spell was purposed to be able being cast from across the map)
- Level [1, 2, 3] - Cooldown: 0.00
- Level [1, 2, 3] - Mana Cost: 0
Else than had mentioned above is set to normal (nothing changed), It's been 2 days and still I can't get this thing work...

Edit: If the dummy have Locust ability, its impossible to be stunned/silenced, right...? Or the dummy have to be invulnerable too...?