dota allstars 6.13

[DM Cross]

Ok, must stop talking about things I don't understand I thought optimizing made LESS lag?

And ok, then apparently my second idea (having regions just to have them lag anyone trying to open it) is the reason

 

[Sargon]

I thought optimizing made LESS lag?

Correct. And that's what Conan was saying, too.

 

[Sud]

Let's see...

Assume 4 integers to mark the boundaries of each region. Each integer I believe is 2 bytes, so, 10000 regions would take up at a minimum 80,000 bytes. It will likely take more because regions have names and other data pertaining to them.

 

[XXXconanXXX]

That's only 10 kilobytes, and no one has that many regions.

 

[DM Cross]

Correct. And that's what Conan was saying, too.

Dammit, I can't read, thank you for pointing out my stupid, lol.

I missed the "less" before "laggier"...

 

[Sud]

lol maybe in Vexorian's next update he can make it remove "useless" regions

And where do you get that 80k bytes is 10kb

 

[XXXconanXXX]

Erm, sorry, I saw 1,000, not 10,000.

That's actually 100 kb, but again, no one has that many regions, unless your like completely new. (Like using mana amount as a Condition to spawn units )

 

[Sargon]

It's actually about 79 KB. However, I doubt that there are actually that many regions in the map. So it's a moot point.

 

[Sud]

Well nobody new but them of course. The spend more time trying to hide their stock warcraft ladder abilities (or as 56k mentioned, elite wc3sear.ch downloading skills) from people than actually creating new content.

 

[PB_and_J]

..... sud where is your forum? is it on Th of a diff site cause i got alot of questions for Cod.

is the forum w/ Th of a diff site?

 

[Sargon]

Well, if it was on TH you'd be able to see it. Therefore, it's not.

http://dasud.proboards7.com/index.cgi

It's there.

 

[PB_and_J]

o ok ya i was looking around at the sites projects and didnt c Cod. Thx

 

[Sud]

No but there should be a link in my profile

 

[Evi1Be3]

ok i know im abit slow... but now that i have browsed through all of wc3sear's content =/ dota does have them all :| but thats beside the point.... and one thing i like point out. someone said it earlier about the makers on DOTA actually creating over a billion region just to lag anyone who opens it... whats the point? cause then they wont be able to avoid that either? :S. and if yur gonna say they make a back up copy without the regions, so u believe anyone who will actually sit there and click 1 billion times in one spot everytime they update there map =/. The DotA makers must have alot of spare time....

 

[Im_On_56k]

They could easily make a script to do that.

 

[Im_On_56k]

I just did a quick test, I made 10,000 regions in a few minutes. I saved it and the file size was 200kb for a 32x32 map with nothing but 10,000 regions.

 

[DM Cross]

Does the size of the region effect the amount of space it takes up?

After all, what map size is DotA? If the region size affects the amount of file size it uses, then if they make regions the size of the entire map, it'll be much bigger then making a bunch of little squares covering the map...

 

[Im_On_56k]

All of my 10,000 regions were the smallest you can make it. So im not sure if it affects filesize and i don't feel like doing that again right now.

 

[Myzteryz]

i forgot if u can do that or not but can't u copy/paste regions?

 

[Im_On_56k]

Yes you can, but when you are copy/pasteing thousands of regions at a time it lags like hell if you don't have a good comp.