Help me make a Shadow Hunter

[keychup]

Base Hero: Shadow Hunter
Primary Attribute: Strength
Theme: Ninja
Range: 600

Current Set:

1: Shackles - Pulls a target unit over 500 spaces and deals damage based on Intelligence
2: Hex - Turns units within a 200 space Area of Effect in front of you into frogs
3: ???
4: Shadow Sneak - Turns you invisible and doubles your movement speed

Here's some additional information about the hero so you can understand it more.
Stats at maximum level (15)
HP - 660
MP - 603
Strength - 33 (Strength remains Strength - Each point increases HP by 20)
Defense - 43 (Defense replaces Agility - Each point increases armor by 1)
Wisdom - 67 (Wisdom replaces Intelligence - Each point increases MP by 9)
+1 damage for each point in primary attribute (in this case: Strength)

All skill-based spells are based on Strength or Wisdom.

-The reason primary attribute is strength and damage is based on Wisdom is because i want it to deal less physical damage but more magical damage.
-Ranged attacks should balance out the fact his physical attack is low.
-Each point of armor is 2% damage reduction up to 10, 1% up to 20, 0.5% up to 30, etc.
-Attributes don't grant regeneration, thus 0 HP/MP regeneration by default. Regeneration is accessed via abilities or items.

 

[Inflicted]

Orcish Flame Pit
Area of about 450, circle of fire. Deals 10/20/30/40 damage per second initially but for every units that remain in the circle the damage is increased by 50% each second. Circle lasting about 4-6 seconds.

Eg.
Level 1
Deals 10 damage, unit is in the circle for the second count, it deals 15 (10+50%), 3rd count it deals 22.5(15+50%) etc. But a new unit that walks into the fire on say the third count only takes 10 damage.

That way you would try to keep them inside the smallish area to deal maximum damage.
This area effect would have good synergy with your abilities.
As you would Shackles, pull them into the fire circle. Then hex them in it, to deal as much damage as possible.

Visuals: Small/Medium Circle; Fire.
Triggering: Jass or Hashtables.

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Additionally, another idea.
Flame Aura
Deals 25/45/65/85 damage per second. Applies a burn buff on the enemy, when a spell is cast on a burning target, the duration of the disable is increased by 25% and attacks/spell damage are increased by 14/16/18/20% whilest the enemy has the buff.
Aura has 350 range.
Passive.

This works well with snare and hex disables, as it increases the duration.
Works well with ultimate as you can run invisible with the enemy and applying aura and dealing damage.
(Perhaps make allies also have increased damage when attacking burning/buffed enemies)

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Moar options:

Shaman's Curse
Activatable, Lasts 4-6 seconds. Cooldown, aprox 20-40.
Whilest active, drains 2/3/4/5 % of all nearby units maximum hit points and restores 15/20/25/30 % of the damage done back in hit points to the Shaman.

Why? This requires you to bee nearby enemies, having snares and disables work well with this.
Activate it just before holding/shackling or hexing to gain maximum duration.
Using this at critical timings can restore a large amount of hit points and deal final blows.

Effective and simple.
Can be adjusted to only work on enemy hero's.

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Even moaaar:

Burning Essence
Passive, every attack and spell cast deals 5% additional damage and restores 2% of the damage dealt in hit points to the Shaman.
Every attack and cast increases the damage dealt by 0.5% and restored amount by 0.25%.
Eg first cast/attack deals +5% damage and restores 2% of damage dealt.
second cast/attack deals +5.5% damage and restores 2.25% of damage dealt.
third cast/attack deals +6% damage and restores 2.5% of damage dealt.
etc. Lasts 4 seconds, each cast resets the duration time.
That way the bonus is only lost when attacks are not made and spells are not cast for 4 seconds.
Can add a limit, that it only stacks 15 or 20 times.

Why?
This hero is casting alot and perhaps attacking alot, this is a very hybrid kindof idea. Dealing additional damage for not only attacks but also spells, and healing a portion of the damage dealt by them. This encourages caster/mage style aswel. This gives many ways of playing a single Hero.

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Which one do you like most?
I can help you make either of these.

 

[keychup]

Wow, the skills are getting really all-round. In fact, a bit too all-round. Especially the drain. But the idea of entry hazards are quite appealing. I'm getting closer to what type of 3rd ability i could use, thanks to your help.

I'll give this thread a couple of more days to see if anyone has other ideas aside from hazards

 

[Inflicted]

Hazard? What do you mean?

They are meant to suit your other abilities to add some form of synergy. Rather than having 4 random abilities. (unless you want that?)

I gave ideas that were kinda like bridging the gap between the other abilities.

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Theme: Ninja.

hmmm

Well I could give ideas revolving around the invisibility if you want?

Here are some of the "ninja" abilities:

Sneaky Slice
Jumps to a nearby location, the next attack will deal a 3x damage critical strike.
Cooldown: approx 10-20
Small Mana cost

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Assassinate
Marks a target enemy hero, that unit has its movement speed halved for 4 seconds. For the next 4 seconds all attacks against that target deal 50% additional damage and have 50% additional lifesteal.
Cooldown: Medium 20-40
Medium Mana cost

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Shamans Deception
Cast on an enemy, deals 100/200/300/400 damage and slows the targets movement speed by 25% for 8 seconds. Creates 2 illusions of the Shaman Hunter next to the target.
Cooldown: Medium-Long 45-60
Medium Mana cost

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Unholy Strike
Targets an enemy, gains a 35/40/45/50% movement speed bonus for 3 seconds (but is removed on the first attack), the first attack will slow the attacked target by 75% for 2 seconds. While the unit is slowed it will miss all attacks.

This will give the idea of charging at a single enemy and as he hits the unit he is unable to escape and immobile.
Allowing the Shaman Hunter to be a hard hitting assassin.

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Are these better?

 

[Mabaet.Baet]

Base Hero: Shadow Hunter
Primary Attribute: Strength
Theme: Ninja
Range: 600

Current Set:

1: Shackles - Pulls a target unit over 500 spaces and deals damage based on Intelligence
2: Hex - Turns units within a 200 space Area of Effect in front of you into frogs
3: ???
4: Shadow Sneak - Turns you invisible and doubles your movement speed

RANGED STRENGTH Ninja that uses spell based on Int? Hex for a ninja? And his skills has nothing to do with his title as a Shadow Hunter(The shadowsneak maybe). I think it's not good. Just sayin'

 

[Inflicted]

oh, i did not see that it was Strength.
I kinda felt like it was more Agility/Intellegence.

Hard hitting and heavy caster kindof feel.

Please describe the class and gameplay feel more please.

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If he wants a tanky assassin, try something like this:

Solid Taunt
Jumps to a target location, dealing 10/11/12/13 % of his maximum hit points in damage to all nearby units. Also taunting nearby enemies, causing them to attack him and silence them for 2 seconds.

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Stunning Blast
Passive
Everytime a spell is cast, the next attack will stun the attacked target for 1.5 seconds.
This encourages the unit to get physical and tank out the enemy to get in attacks.

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Initiator.
Passive: Movement speed is increased by 2/2.5/3/3.5 % of maximum hit points.
Active: Movement speed is boosted by 60% for 4 seconds.

This allows the player to build tanky and still get into combat fast, and be able to chase down enemies.

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Note: These abilities do not go very well with the original 2 abilities.

edit:
ahhh i did not see it was ranged.
The above abilities are more suited for melee.

Ranged Strength with disable?
Sounds like a bruiser.
Has disable already, you need some sort of offensive move.
eg.

Hardened Strikes
Each attack reduces enemies attack speed by 5/10/15/20 %, stacking up to 3 times. Attacks deal 20/30/40/50 % of Strength xStackAmount in additional damage.
Buff lasts 2 seconds.
Therefore consecutive attacks will reduce enemy attack speed and deal additional damage according to Strength. Encouraging Tank and Hard Hitter builds.

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tbh, I really dont know what he wants lol.

 

[keychup]

Yes hazards. Such as the fire on the ground after casting flame strike, the slow caused by earthquake, The draining effect of Death and Decay and the barrage of ice made by blizzard. Basically anything which causes harm to a unit if they enter a certain area.

 

[Inflicted]

Yes hazards. Such as the fire on the ground after casting flame strike, the slow caused by earthquake, The draining effect of Death and Decay and the barrage of ice made by blizzard. Basically anything which causes harm to a unit if they enter a certain area.

oh. You mean an AoE.
Yeah, well you have snares and other immobilising disables, AoE abilities go well with that as a caster.

Did you look at any of the other posts? or am i just wasting my time giving you ideas?

 

[keychup]

Here's some additional information about the hero so you can understand it more.
Stats at maximum level (15)
HP - 660
MP - 603
Strength - 33 (Strength remains Strength - Each point increases HP by 20)
Defense - 43 (Defense replaces Agility - Each point increases armor by 1)
Wisdom - 67 (Wisdom replaces Intelligence - Each point increases MP by 9)
+1 damage for each point in primary attribute (in this case: Strength)

All skill-based spells are based on Strength or Wisdom.

-The reason primary attribute is strength and damage is based on Wisdom is because i want it to deal less physical damage but more magical damage.
-Ranged attacks should balance out the fact his physical attack is low.
-Each point of armor is 2% damage reduction up to 10, 1% up to 20, 0.5% up to 30, etc.
-Attributes don't grant regeneration, thus 0 HP/MP regeneration by default. Regeneration is accessed via abilities or items.

 

[keychup]

oh. You mean an AoE.
Yeah, well you have snares and other immobilising disables, AoE abilities go well with that as a caster.

Did you look at any of the other posts? or am i just wasting my time giving you ideas?

Oh no, you aren't wasting your time at all. The idea is to get help, right? I will either use one of your ideas or try to work my way around your ideas so i can decide what i will make.

And yes i have read your posts. But i wouldnt call them AoE, since Thunderclap and War Stomp could also be called AoE but doesn't come in the same category as Flame Strike, Death and Decay, and such.

 

[keychup]

EDIT: Double Post

 

[Inflicted]

That is a triple post.

And Flame Strike is still an Area of Effect ability.

but anyway.
Is their anything else you need?

 

[keychup]

i'm already set to makin a Ward which channels an AoE hazard. You can strategically place the ward in a hidden spot while it drains 5% enemy HP per second for 4/6/8/10 seconds. Enemies will have to search for the ward and destroy it. it can even be put on the edge of the cliff where enemy cant reach it, while the AoE can still reach the enemy.

 

[Kike]

will the ward restore the Shadow's hp? if you want one more elaborated spell you could store all the hp stealed and give to the hero every 2sec.... or simply give in the end of the ward but you can cancel it (if you're at low hp and doesn't want to wait 10 sec ) it may have a great mana cost once it can give a large amount of hp... BUT... if someone destrois it... no hp for you little shaman XD

 

[keychup]

nah, healing is way too good for him. Combining healing with all that damage makes him much too well-rounded.