Need help with Spell-triggers

[Bullbaz]

Hello, I'm totally new here at TheHelper and I'm new to World Editor too.
I'm however getting the hang of it pretty fast, but that's not what this thread is about.

I'm creating some kind of PvP-based map, it will probably turn out something like DotA, only difference is that mine won't be very good.
However, I want to create a spell that I will probably call Blinkblast or something like that, and what it's suppose to do is blink to the selected location and then create an AoE blast.

I don't know how to do this, but I guess it should be possible to just make a trigger that sais:
"When stop-casting-blink cast this cool AoE thang where the dude is standing Yeah pjew pjew!"

well, something like that.. So that the AoE automatically triggers when the blink is done.

So, is this possible, and if it is, how do I make it work?

And as i said, I'm very new to this, so I understand if you just want to throw me out the window.

EDIT: And just to let you know, I'm running WE clean, No JASS stuff or anything like that and no other "addons".
I like to keep it that way just to see how good looking and hopefully fun a map can be with only the original WE things.

 

[inevit4ble]

lol you make WE sound like a drugy

I'll post a trigger here in a moment

This is a tested trigger code:

Events
Unit - A unit Finishes casting an ability
Conditions
(Ability being cast) Equal to BlinkBlast
Actions
Special Effect - Create a special effect at (Position of (Casting Unit)) using Abilities\Spells\Human\ThunderClap\ThunderClapCaster.mdl
Unit - Order Triggering Unit to damage area in 0.00 seconds of size 500 at (Position of (Triggering Unit)) for 300.00 using attack type Spell and damage type Normal.

 

[Exide]

Does it have to be MUI?

If you base the ability of blink, maybe this will do the trick:

Untitled Trigger 001
    Events
        Unit - A unit Finishes casting an ability
    Conditions
        (Ability being cast) Equal to Blink
    Actions
        Set loc = (Target point of ability being cast)
        Special Effect - Create a special effect at loc using Abilities\Spells\Human\ThunderClap\ThunderClapCaster.mdl
        Set SpecialFX = (Last created special effect)
        Unit - Cause (Triggering unit) to damage circular area after 0.00 seconds of radius 500.00 at loc, dealing 100.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal
        Custom script:   call RemoveLocation(udg_loc)
        Custom script:   call DestroyEffect( udg_SpecialFX )

-Not tested.

 

[Bullbaz]

lol you make WE sound like a drugy

Mwaha ;P

And Exide, im trying to read through your trigger to make myself understand triggers a bit better, and it seems like it's in order in my tiny head until I get to the "Actions" part, where I don't know how to put it into my trigger editor, and I don't know wtf it means so if you have the time, please explain how I insert it into my editor.

(still trying to not be too much of a n00b, but it's hard.)

 

[inevit4ble]

You would need to put each command into the trigger editor one at a time.

You can't copy paste
You right click and use the menus to get the right options

 

[Bullbaz]

Yeah that's what I did with the first two, then when I realized I couldn't find the rest of the cmd's from Action I thought there might be an easier way.
But I'll try this in a while

Thanks for the help, I'll come back with an edit when I've tried the spell.

 

[Exide]

My trigger is a bit "advanced" (not really, but you can make it in a simpler way.)
However, the simpler way is faulty, and you should learn how to do it correctly to begin with, so you don't have to re-learn!

So, my trigger:

        Set loc = (Target point of ability being cast)

loc is a Point Variable. I named it loc for 'location'.
>Why do we set a Point Variable?
-Because Points leak memory.
>What is a memory leak?
-It's bad. What it is EXACTLY, I don't know.. (There are pleny of Tutorials about it around here.) Memory leaks cause lag - the more leaks you have, the more lag you will get.
-So we clean up the leak, after we've used the point.

        Special Effect - Create a special effect at [B]loc[/B] using Abilities\Spells\Human\ThunderClap\ThunderClapCaster.mdl

Creates a special effect at earlier mentioned point, named loc.

        Set SpecialFX = (Last created special effect)

SpecialFX is a Special Effect Variable.
Special effects also leaks.

        Unit - Cause (Triggering unit) to damage circular area after 0.00 seconds of radius 500.00 at loc, dealing 100.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal

Makes a unit cause damage around loc. (Second time using the same point.)

        Custom script:   call RemoveLocation([B]udg_loc[/B])

This is JASS. (The programming language that WC3 uses.)
-This will "clean up" the point leak. udg_loc = user defined global - named loc.
user defined = set by a user (You). Global variable means that this variable can be used in several triggers (as opposed to local variables.)

        Custom script:   call DestroyEffect( udg_SpecialFX )

Same as above, but for the special effect instead. (This can be done in GUI -without JASS- if you prefer, looks like this

Special Effect - Destroy SpecialFX

I bet that didn't make anything more clear than before, but there you have it.

 

[inevit4ble]

Why make such an advanced trigger for a simply task. I did the same in two actions with no variables and the anti-leak prog doesn;t have any probs with it. Gosh!:nuts:

 

[Exide]

Why make such an advanced trigger for a simply task. I did the same in two actions with no variables and the anti-leak prog doesn;t have any probs with it. Gosh!:nuts:

Because, frankly, your trigger sucks.
It leaks; several points and a special effect.

 

[inevit4ble]

Lol I love you too ?

But I get by just fine. My younger bro fixes that stuff for me anyway.

He's the JASS Nerd and I jus do the rest

 

[Romek]

It's bad. What it is EXACTLY, I don't know..

Basically, it's a handle which has taken up memory, but then has been lost reference of. Meaning it can't be deleted or anything anymore. So.. It'll just pointlessly take up memory.

 

[shinami]

I didn't read through the whole thread so i'm not sure if someone pointed this out, but when using "damage area" action, your allies also get damaged, and if i remember correctly you also get damaged.

 

[DiFm]

Yea thats what i was gonna say you need to add like make unit Invulnerable Or else he will be Damaged also and all of your friends will be, better IF you made a Unitgroup of all enemies in that area then Damaged all units in unitgroup.

 

[Bullbaz]

I bet that didn't make anything more clear than before, but there you have it.

Actually that made me very much pro1337haxx!
No but seriously, I did understand it, and now I've managed to put it all together too. BUT, it doesn't work. I don't know but would the very first line be the thing fekking it up?

Mwehe! I just tried it and it was the very first line.
Because the event said "A unit Finishes casting an ability",
And the condition for the AoE to happen was suppose to be Blink being casted, and the trigger was set into motion when it was finished, so when the trigger actually went into action the ability was done and the conditions didn't match any more.

I might be way wrong, but it works now that I use Unit - A unit begins casting an ability, so I guess... I'm right?

 

[Exide]

Yea, my bad.
I guess you can use:

Unit - A unit Finishes casting an ability

together with:

Set loc = Position of (Triggering Unit)

If you wanted to.

As long as it works, it's fine. :thup:

 

[AoW_Hun7312]

Trigger
    Events
        Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
    Conditions
        (Ability being cast) Equal to Animate Dead
    Actions
        If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
            If - Conditions
                (Level of Animate Dead for (Casting unit)) Equal to 1
            Then - Actions
                Set TemPoint = (Target point of ability being cast)
                Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units within 300.00 of (Target point of ability being cast) matching (((Picked unit) belongs to an enemy of (Owner of (Casting unit))) Equal to True)) and do (Actions)
                    Loop - Actions
                        Set SpecialEffectPoint = (Position of (Picked unit))
                        Special Effect - Create a special effect at SpecialEffectPoint using Abilities\Spells\Human\ThunderClap\ThunderClapCaster.mdl
                        Special Effect - Destroy (Last created special effect)
                        Unit - Cause (Casting unit) to damage (Picked unit), dealing 300.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal
                        Custom script:   call RemoveLocation (udg_SpecialEffectPointt)
                Set TempGroup = (Last created unit group)
                Custom script:   call DestroyGroup (udg_TempGroup)
            Else - Actions
                If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
                    If - Conditions
                        (Level of Animate Dead for (Casting unit)) Equal to 2
                    Then - Actions
                        Set TemPoint = (Target point of ability being cast)
                        Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units within 400.00 of (Target point of ability being cast) matching (((Picked unit) belongs to an enemy of (Owner of (Casting unit))) Equal to True)) and do (Actions)
                            Loop - Actions
                                Set SpecialEffectPoint = (Position of (Picked unit))
                                Special Effect - Create a special effect at SpecialEffectPoint using Abilities\Spells\Human\ThunderClap\ThunderClapCaster.mdl
                                Special Effect - Destroy (Last created special effect)
                                Unit - Cause (Casting unit) to damage (Picked unit), dealing 400.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal
                                Custom script:   call RemoveLocation (udg_SpecialEffectPointt)
                        Set TempGroup = (Last created unit group)
                        Custom script:   call DestroyGroup (udg_TempGroup)
                    Else - Actions
                        If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
                            If - Conditions
                                (Level of Animate Dead for (Casting unit)) Equal to 3
                            Then - Actions
                                Set TemPoint = (Target point of ability being cast)
                                Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units within 500.00 of (Target point of ability being cast) matching (((Picked unit) belongs to an enemy of (Owner of (Casting unit))) Equal to True)) and do (Actions)
                                    Loop - Actions
                                        Set SpecialEffectPoint = (Position of (Picked unit))
                                        Special Effect - Create a special effect at SpecialEffectPoint using Abilities\Spells\Human\ThunderClap\ThunderClapCaster.mdl
                                        Special Effect - Destroy (Last created special effect)
                                        Unit - Cause (Casting unit) to damage (Picked unit), dealing 500.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal
                                        Custom script:   call RemoveLocation (udg_SpecialEffectPointt)
                                Set TempGroup = (Last created unit group)
                                Custom script:   call DestroyGroup (udg_TempGroup)
                            Else - Actions

This should work. Replace Animate Dead with your spell.

 

[Bullbaz]

I didn't read through the whole thread so i'm not sure if someone pointed this out, but when using "damage area" action, your allies also get damaged, and if i remember correctly you also get damaged.

That's very very true, I just realized that.
But I actually want to damage nearby allies too, so instead I made the triggering unit invunerable for about 0.50 sec ^^,
(and yes, it works.)

 

[shinami]

That's very very true, I just realized that.
But I actually want to damage nearby allies too, so instead I made the triggering unit invunerable for about 0.50 sec ^^,
(and yes, it works.)

Either that or your just too lazy to make moar actions that wouldn't damage allies. Well atleast thats what i did when i first experienced this problem. I made an excuse which sounds like " i wantz mah allies to die awswell "

 

[Bullbaz]

Either that or your just too lazy to make moar actions that wouldn't damage allies. Well atleast thats what i did when i first experienced this problem. I made an excuse which sounds like " i wantz mah allies to die awswell "

Yeah well, I wanted to make it the don't-dmg-homies way at first
But then I realized it's easier AND a bit more believable the easy way, since I make a bigass freakin blastwave that's coming out of my heroes body, if my allies stands next to me when I do that they should feel it, however I shouldn't, since it "comes out" from me