Upgrades and the Chaos ability dont mix.

kingkwong92

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I have an upgrade that give an HP boost.
I also have a toggle ability that adds and removes chaos.
Every time the unit is toggled, it gains the upgrade. So toggling backwards and forwards a few times gives you heaps of HP. Anyone know of any quick fixes. I don't want to have to make an ability for each upgrade I have (Eg. item-life bonus) and put it in a spell book.
 

kingkwong92

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Hmmmm...... Ill get back to you on that one.
Could you list me the positives on using metamorphosis?
I have to order them to use it but for chaos I can instantly give it to them with triggers.
Ill try it out now
 

vypur85

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> Could you list me the positives on using metamorphosis?
There's nothing to list I suppose.
It just does what you're looking for.
Except that it's a timed spell.
Ordering to cast Metamorphosis and giving Chaos are both one line triggers.
Given a choice, I'd go for Meta. Less trouble.
 

kingkwong92

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An example I can think of is if the unit is stunned, they cant cast metamorphosis.
I also need it to be permanent. Does bear form work?
 

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Just remove the extra HP from the unit with a level 2 Life Bonus?
 

jonas

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That would get messy the more upgrades there are... Why do you need chaos? To remove the selection circle and life bar?
 

kingkwong92

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I have an abilit that makes you 95% transparent. The chaos removes the shadow and the HP bar. I have upgrades that increase the health. I gave the upgrade to both the invis unit and the normal unit.
 

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Does ethereal form work the same way as chaos?
 

kingkwong92

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No, I think its like the other morph abilities. Chaos doesnt have am active. Its like a hidden passive. I think im just going to trigger the HP boost, Mana boost, mana regen and move speed with abilities.
Does anyone know how to up move speed? I tried with the item move speed boost ability but the move speed didn't increase.
 

jonas

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there are some boots of walking, that ability works. Other than that, there is a JASS function that can be used to set movement speed... It might also exist in the GUI.

EDIT: I'm not sure if the speed bonus stacks and/or if the ability can be levelled. I.e., you'll possibly have to remove&add as you increase the speed.
 
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kingkwong92

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I used the ability that looks like the boots of speed. It says give movement speed bonus but when I tested it, it doesn't work.
Do I use the HP book from the tome that looks like a panda or do I use the item that gives HP? Do item abilities have a icon, then I would have to put it in a disabled spellbook.

I tried adding the tome of health to the unit and tested it with the chaos ability and the HP still keeps on stacking up. I think Ill play around with one of the active morph abilities as well and see what happens. Like you said, its really annoying when there are heaps of upgrades.
 

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Use the item that gives HP, that's the one that I used. I'm certain that the tome ability keeps adding up. I read that chaos should not be used on heroes because such things add up ; so using the abilities on units will do the same. I'm afraid that the item abilities- if they work - will also add up, so you need to remove them before you chaos.

I think the active morph will be much nicer.
 

kingkwong92

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I just tried with the active morph. I based it off bear form and it still doe the same thing.
If I make the upgrades affect both units it adds HP when I morph and morph out.
If only my origin unit type affected by the upgrade, the HP when unmorphing.
!@#$%^&*&^%$#@!@#$%^ :(

EDIT!! Actually the HP gain is random as. THe HP gain is also exponential. Starts small and gets really big really quick
 

jonas

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That's not surprising. It probably just adds the current bonus every time (which doubles the current bonus).

Anyway, metamorphosis (the DH ability) should not do this.
 
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