Reincarnation Question

[NapaHero]

Can Reincarnation be detected in a trigger?

 

[Darkchaoself]

Simple- No, i dont believe in GUI

There might be someway using a hero is revived, if thats an event, but theres a slim chance

doing

Spell being cast equal to Reincarnation

might work, probably not though, considering its a passive.

 

[Ghan]

Not by conventional means, anyway.
This is because the hero never actually "dies", and you can't detect the use of the ability as far as I know.
However, I thought I once heard of a detection system for that....
Not sure, though.

Unless you're incredibly ambitious, I would say drop it.

 

[0zaru]

If you know some jass you can use a custom event, search in www.wc3jass.com

 

[NapaHero]

No way! :banghead: I really need to check Reincarnation in my trigger.

 

[esb]

I remember someone else saying that you can.
If unit has 0 health, and is still alive, then it is reincarnating

 

[phyrex1an]

It's kinda hard but possible but maybe not in the GUI.

When a unit with reincarnation "dies" (in lack of a better word) it will have 0 hp (but isn't truly dead). When a unit with reincarnation "dies" it fires the "Unit has less than 1 HP" even but NOT the "Unit Dies" event, a unit that doesn't have reincarnation fires both events.

A system that detects the Reincarnation Event needs 3 different events:
1. Unit get less than 1 HP
2. Unit Dies (this happen right after event 1 IF the unit doesn't have reincarnation)
3. Unit get more or equal to 1 HP (the unit is restored)

Good luck

>However, I thought I once heard of a detection system for that....
http://www.wc3jass.com/viewtopic.php?t=244

 

[Darkchaoself]

If *unitvariable* life equal to 0
*Unitvariable* is alive equal to true 
Then do- ******
Else do- ******

Maybe?

 

[NapaHero]

You mean:

Events
  <Unit>'s life becomes less than or equal to 0
Conditions
  Level of Reincarnation for <Unit> equal to 1
  Unit is alive equal to true
Actions
  My actions

Edit: Ughh. JASS no please xP

 

[phyrex1an]

You can't have the "Unit is Alive" check in the same trigger as the "life becomes less than or equal to 0" event, the unit is marked as dead after that event happens.

Something like this may be a pretty good GUI hack:

Events
  <Unit>'s life becomes less than 1
Conditions
  Level of Reincarnation for <Unit> equal to 1
Actions
  Wait 0 Seconds
  If - Conditions
     Unit is alive equal to true
  Then - Actions
      Wait For Condition (Units HP is greater or equal to 1) check every 0 second
      ---- Your actions ----

Note: Free hand GUI, the actions are probably named something else.
It's far from perfect but it's as close as you will get without adding tons of complexity.

 

[NapaHero]

The Wait 0 seconds is necessary there?

 

[undrawing]

In addition to what has already been said, if a unit with reincarnation is the last to "die" in a unit group, and it goes into the reincarnation phase before sprining back to life. A Boolean All Units In Unit Group Are Dead will return True.

You could essentially combine Boolean - All Units In Unit Group Are Dead with Integer - Level Of Ability For Unit to find out if a unit is Reincarnating. This won't take into account ability cooldown, however.

 

[Flare]

The Wait 0 seconds is necessary there?

just change the wait to something slightly longer then the delay before your hero is reincarnated? i imagine that's what he means

 

[Pyrogasm]

A unit dies when it has 0.405 health or less. Never compare a unit's life to 0 to see if it's dead, use 0.405 instead. If it has more, it's "alive", if it has less, it's dead.

Not that this is truly related to the topic at hand, but you can detect to see if a unit has been removed from the map like so:

function IsUnitRemoved takes unit U returns boolean
    return GetUnitTypeId(U) == 0
endfunction

 

[Naminator]

So if you life's became less then or equal to 0.405, then you actions. That might work?

 

[0zaru]

not sure.., it's dead already in 0.405 i think.

 

[Naminator]

not sure.., it's dead already in 0.405 i think.

Right. To make sure let's change it to 0.406.

 

[phyrex1an]

just change the wait to something slightly longer then the delay before your hero is reincarnated?

No, the 0 means just what it says: 0.
When the event fires the unit is still alive (even if the hp is 0), so we wait 0 seconds (0 = shortest possible wait) for that to be fixed.

 

[Psiblade94122]

actualy, isnt the shortest "wait" .2 seconds? (anything under makes it defult to .2 even if the trigger says something lower)

 

[0zaru]

the shortest wait i think is 0.27 or something like that. And setting the value of the wait to less of the shortest value it defaults it to the shorter value