US News Guy Who Gets Paid to Say Obamacare Doesn’t Work Can’t Find a Single True Fact to Support His Case

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Obamacare has increased enrollment in its health care exchanges to more than 11 million, and the conservative response to the law’s demonstrable success at carrying out its goals has been fascinating to behold. Measured by volume, the right-wing backlash has diminished severely, as great roaring waves of furious anger have given way to irregular ripples of discontent. But measured by its content, very little has changed. Conservatives are talking much less than they used to about Obamacare, but they are saying more or less the same things, treating the law as a costly and obvious failure. What’s most striking is how oblivious most of them remain not only to measures of the law’s success, but even to the broad parameters of its objectives.

To take a typical example, here is Stephen Moore, chief economist at the Heritage Foundation, making his case, such as it is, that Obamacare has failed to meet its cost targets. Perhaps the most revealing aspect of Moore’s column is the fact that, five years after its passage, the chief economist of the most influential conservative think tank in the United States lacks even a passing familiarity with its fiscal objectives.

Obamacare has two fiscal goals. The first is to pay for its expanded coverage with a combination of spending cuts and higher taxes, so that the net effect is to reduce the deficit. The second, and more ambitious, goal is to change the incentives of the health-care system to gradually bring down health-care inflation (a goal health-care wonks have called “bending the curve”). Moore’s column, which I am excerpting in its entirety, makes clear he does not understand either target. Moore begins by defining Obamacare’s goal as reducing the deficit:

If there were a contest for the biggest lie in Washington over the past 30 years, it would be hard to compete with President Obama's boast that he would put 30 million more Americans on Medicaid and Obamacare subsidies, and this would reduce the budget deficit. That's got to be right up there with President Clinton declaring, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

A new Congressional Budget Office report has blown the lid off the Obama whopper fib.

Read more here. (New York Magazine)
 

Varine

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The fucking issue is, one, forcing people to purchase it that don't want it, and two, no one actually knows what the fucking law is because no one fucking read it. Is it a good thing? Yes, technically, but the methodology that was used in order to make it a thing was not clear, deliberately made as confusing as fucking possible, was not well-thought out, poorly executed, and used as distraction from shit like Canada having to provide humanitarian aid to Michigan and the rest of the absolute failure of the administration.
 

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The fucking issue is, one, forcing people to purchase it that don't want it,

Can't argue with that. Whether or not some forced payments (taxes etc) benefit the community more than they harm the individuals is probably a question of personal perspective rather than provable fact.

and two, no one actually knows what the fucking law is because no one fucking read it. Is it a good thing? Yes, technically, but the methodology that was used in order to make it a thing was not clear, deliberately made as confusing as fucking possible, was not well-thought out, poorly executed, and used as distraction from shit like Canada having to provide humanitarian aid to Michigan and the rest of the absolute failure of the administration.

Yeah, that's true. It should be easy to make such things super accessible such that even a 18 year old high-school drop out can get everything he needs to know. Why is it not happening?
 

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Because an informed populace is less likely to remain submissive to authorities of government. And we are the new Soviet Union, so we don't really get shit.
 

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Because an informed populace is less likely to remain submissive to authorities of government
So you believe someone up high thought "If we make these laws understandable, people will revolt against them."? Giving how that seems to be the main reason why people are right now revolting against them, I think that's not very likely.
 

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Do you know what is in the Patriot Act? Have you ever read the Espionage Act or heard of the Lacy Act? I Never said I think they deliberately write laws complicated anyway, I said they deliberately don't make them easily accessible or navigable.
 
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