Concerning Bots and Dummy Casters

Mr_Bean355

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Hi Guys,

I have discovered that when using dummy casters for computer players, the dummies don't do their jobs. For example, I create a dummy that casts Chain Lightning when my hero attacks. It will work perfectly fine when I play the hero, but when I make the computer use the hero, the dummy doesn't do anything! It's almost like the computer is controlling the dummy, even though us humans can't click on it! :nuts:

Is there a way to fix this? I know that I could create the dummy for Neutral Passive, but then if the dummy's Chain Lightning kills an enemy, the player doesn't get the bounty (Neutral Passive does). :banghead:

Thanks for any help! :shades:
 

HydraRancher

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Hi Guys,

I have discovered that when using dummy casters for computer players, the dummies don't do their jobs. For example, I create a dummy that casts Chain Lightning when my hero attacks. It will work perfectly fine when I play the hero, but when I make the computer use the hero, the dummy doesn't do anything! It's almost like the computer is controlling the dummy, even though us humans can't click on it! :nuts:

Is there a way to fix this? I know that I could create the dummy for Neutral Passive, but then if the dummy's Chain Lightning kills an enemy, the player doesn't get the bounty (Neutral Passive does). :banghead:

Thanks for any help! :shades:

Can we see your triggers?
 

Mr_Bean355

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Can we see your triggers?

The Chain Lightning spell i was talking about was just an example. An ability that i did create is Holy Light, but it heals and then gives an armor bonus for 10 seconds. Here is the trigger:

===============================================
Events:
- A unit starts the effect of an ability

Conditions:
- Ability being cast equal to Holy Light

Actions:
- Create 1 dummy for owner of casting unit at position of target unit of ability being cast facing default building degrees
- Add Holy Armor to last created unit
- Set level of Holy Armor for last created unit to level of Holy Light for casting unit
- Order last created unit to undead lich - frost armor target unit of ability being cast
- add 1 second generic expiration timer to last created unit
===============================================

The "Holy Armor" ability is basically the "Frost Armor" ability. It gives the armor bonus when the target is healed. When a human casts my "Holy Light" spell, it works fine. However, when a computer player casts it, the target doesn't receive the armor bonus. I gather that it is because the dummy isn't casting the ability because the computer is controlling it.
 

HydraRancher

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Well is your computer using an AI? It should still cast the ability unless you have another trigger making the units order otherwise.
 

Mr_Bean355

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No, they cast the "Holy Light" ability normally. It's just that the dummy doesn't cast the armor ability when the caster is controlled by a computer.
 

ZachQuint

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this may not be the solution your looking for, but if you changed it to neutral passive, could you create a trigger that routes the money to the player that it should go to? i donno. just a suggestion...
 

linamus

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Since this is just a buff-like ability (no kill, no gold bounty), you might just use neutral passive with ability able to hit everyone.
 

Mr_Bean355

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this may not be the solution your looking for, but if you changed it to neutral passive, could you create a trigger that routes the money to the player that it should go to? i donno. just a suggestion...

I could try that, but there's no way to detect the bounty, is there?

Since this is just a buff-like ability (no kill, no gold bounty), you might just use neutral passive with ability able to hit everyone.

Yes, that's what I have done. But what about when the ability could kill someone?
 

HeX.16

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After creating the dummy add this line
Trigger:
  • AI - Ignore (Last created unit) Guard Position
 
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