Wc3 resource system easily copied

[punwisp]

Just realized this

Minerals=Trees
Vespene Gas= Goldmine

Along with that, someone could actually easily remake Wc3 onto Sc2... If there were models of course.

 

[Chaos_Knight]

SC2 IS Warcraft 3 with better gameplay, and graphics.

 

[Vestras]

SC2 IS Warcraft 3 with better gameplay, and graphics.

If it has "better gameplay", how is it the same?
SC2 and WC3 are both RTS games. That's close to the only common features they have.

 

[Sevion]

SC2 IS Warcraft 3 with better gameplay, and graphics.

This is completely wrong. SC2 and WC3 are completely different games.

 

[NightShade]

they're similar in the way that all _craft and age of _ games are similar. they are still different, but vastly the same compared to other games.

does this thread have any purpose? it seems kind of like a duh situation, or some sort of spam.

if this was talking about how the warcraft 2 resource system could be easily copied, then I would be interested.

 

[Chaos_Knight]

This is completely wrong. SC2 and WC3 are completely different games.

Please tell me whats different.

 

[13lade619]

Please tell me whats different.

c'mon, seriously, you really ask that question?

it seems you're joking and spamming your way onto TH.net.

So you compare a full game to a beta, compare games with a totally different concept

Large armies vs Hero focused group with a few other units tagging along, very small scale battling.

Its quite hard to make that kind of comparison

i say the 2 games cater to 2 different audiences.

Warcraft focuses more on heroes and small scale battles.
Starcraft is a game of masses of units.
very different.

on the custom games side,

the warcraft 'feel' of being magical and medieval is vastly different
from the futuristic environment of sc and people have preferences.
i personally prefer the wc3 environment.

It's not even about the themes, if you think about the amount of options, Starcraft II would be massing and harassing. While Warcraft III is CC, getting items, and neutral units like the flying goblin thing that can carry units(forgot what it was called).
I'm not referring to massing futuristic units compared to using magic and heroes.
Starcraft is really massing units either in your base, on an expo, or near pylons. What else can you do?

Don't talk about the fact that you're massing medival units not future units. That has very little to do with the actually utilizing your skills, which I believe Warcraft does better.
You are mistaken if you think massing one or two units in your base is more fun than playing Warcraft.

Lol@YourFace

Personally I played both games for years and I really do prefer starcraft.

Not being biased at all, I loved both games styles of play but you can't really say all starcraft is "massing and harassing" because really I could say the same as WC3. You either creep or harass, either rush or tech, and decide what you do. The real micro comes in with the heroes, and some casting with your tag along units as well as item composition/usage. You build expos but you don't really dedicate that much into them because they are just their to get your resources. So, warcraft3 is more small scale hero micro centered.

Starcraft I find is more of a true "RTS" so to speak of with a larger scale. With a larger unit cap and smaller "food" prices for units, you can get fairly large armies. When you build an expo, you need to build up defenses and you can decide how you want that base to produce units, like ground, air. etc. I also find I can largely use lower tier units consistantly in starcraft, unlike warcraft 3 where in no circumstances does mass Taurens get owned by mass grunts, whereas mass speedlings can outperform mass ultras in a few occasions. I find there is more macro (which I love, matter of opinion) in starcraft then warcraft.

I dunno, love the two but SC is my fav.

 

[Oninuva]

Well the game is more fast paced for one. Starcraft 2 that is.

 

[tooltiperror]

That's like saying each FPS is the same and each RTS is the same, you just sound like you don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sure someone will (wrongfully) call this trolling, but it's the simple truth.

 

[Dan]

now now... chaos knight is completely correct!!!

Don't you remember those orc with guns? XD

 

[Weep]

"This is not Warcraft in space!

It's much more...sophisticated!"

- Artanis

 

[punwisp]

Imagine blizzard getting bored so they rip off star wars, thrust orcs and ogres in, and combine terrans and zerg

PEW PEW!

 

[Slapshot136]

Imagine blizzard getting bored so they rip off star wars, thrust orcs and ogres in, and combine terrans and zerg

PEW PEW!

*cough* tauren marines *cough*

and you said that they are the same because they both have 2 main resources?

"Along with that, someone could actually easily remake Wc3 onto Sc2... If there were models of course. "

sure, except you could also say "someone could re-make age of empires 3 onto SC2... If there were models of course." or virtually any other RTS game as well

 

[tooltiperror]

Every RTS is the same game with a different theme, gameplay style, or objective.

That's why it's a genre.

 

[Orphen_123]

We should all just stick to playing Dune 2.
I mean it's exactly the same as AoE/SC/Warcraft and any other RTS.
Just better gameplay and graphics.

 

[Samael88]

Every RTS is the same game with a different theme, gameplay style, or objective.

That's why it's a genre.

The RTS genre actually contains a pretty wide range of games.

The things they are most likely to share is:
1. Expanding your "empire".
2. Amassing large armies.
3. Killing your opponents.

Some RTS game does not even have resources as in gold or such.
The most interesting RTS game I have ever played does not even let the player build anything, it is all about the conquest and expanding.

 

[punwisp]

Total War and Warcraft are pretty different

Real Time Strategy games aren't the same, theres a few quite unique ones.

 

[KillerChi]

Warcraft 3 and Starcraft has similar building rules.
e.g. units becoming a building and only building on creep/blight
That's where the similarities really end, though.

 

[punwisp]

Building rules and resource concepts are pretty much the same, but the playstyle and gameplay is quite different.

 

[Slapshot136]

I wouldn't even say the resource concepts are the same - in wc3 you have trees and neutrals across the map and can get wood/gold from anywhere, while in sc2 your limited to the "pre-defined" bases for where you can get your minerals/gas