No point arguing with people who wont listen or see others points of view... If you really believe what youre doing isnt lame as all hell, and want others to believe that you got banned for shit that didnt happen (basically lying your ass off), then I have no reason to respect your opinion and would say the program works- because I wont have to worry about getting you in my games
Okay alex, we've been mean enough. I dont think he noticed the map.
..., its not like your team went out of your way to listen to us either.
The whole point is, there are no 'BNET' police, and trying to force people to be or play a certain way just isn't practical.
It may be lame as hell, of course. I never said it wasn't. But, the game lets you do it. It lets you use furion. How does that make it wrong? You can add people to as many lists as you like; I'm not a horrible guy because I did something in the game.
Surely, its better than the people who talk shit all game, and insult you. The people who get lucky, gang you 5 on 1, then call you a noob, just to see if it makes you angry.
Don't be sorry Ryoko, I just couldn't think of another way to grab your attention because your PM box was full. I myself am sorry if I voliated any rules, regardless of the intentions behind the actions.
Hmm, I think the real heart of the matter (BTW, notice Mister ... ran off?) is this:
Does this clan that worked so hard to make such a popular map hold the right to say who plays or who does not?
Now, just to play Devil's Advocate (argue both sides), here are some points:
These people put a lot of time and effort into this map, and it's versions.
It's very popular, so that means people are going to want to steal it and call it their own.
B.Net IS a comminuty where we're all supposed to be free to play whatever games we choose.
However, the host DOES have a say in who they let play or not.
Also however: Is it fair to restrict gameplay when the game itself does not do this?
If so, then why create the things that create these "cheating" problems?
No one said you were a horrible guy, and yes, weve considered adding a do not allow teleport here option with the trigger, but voted against it because he may need to teleport there when his team IS there. If you think its lame as hell, why even do it dude? Ganking someone 5v1 is part of the game- its not ruined, you simply revive, and stay together if thats how its being played. Having furion TP in and make treants CAN ruin a game. Why dont you think that the team which outplayed the other should win? If you had any skill in DotA (not meant to be a flame), you wouldnt need to do that shit to win,- and you wouldnt stoop that low so you could win. Doing stuff like that makes you no better than the people who do gank and call you noob. Ill put it this way: Tiny can toss people into a revine that they cant possibly escape from. The game lets you do it, but you must remain there the rest of the game, and cannot escape. Is that right? Just because you can do something doesnt mean its the right wya to play. Yea, sure youre more likely to win if they have a player who cant play, but common decency should prevail, and you shouldnt do that. Banlist is an effective tool for keeping people who dont have that common decency out of my games. It works, plain and simple. You cant refute its effectiveness, both as a deterrant, and a preventative measure for future games. Just because you got banned for something which can ruin a game doesnt mean the program doesnt work- infact, it does the opposite! Owell, Ive said my peace. The program says more than I can ever get through to you guys through logic, so download it, become educated about it, and you will drop this based on the sheer amount of misinformation involved.
Rhasta can cyclone you and plop wards down on your shadow, and its instant death.
Yet you refuse to change that. The 'pro' players call it 'skillz' and say 'deal with it', and I'm tired of it. If you say you can't, I can give you more trigger code.
Rules and 'IMBA's are decided in your favor.
Backdooring with furion takes hero timing, creep timing, and 'skillz' to make it really work well. Half the time, they wait for you to come of course. I get banned, Rhasta does not.
Furion doesn't ruin the game. You have to hit one tower or one rack five times to get it. Its just ANNOYING, and thats why people get angry.
When they get angry, it makes it more interesting. A big grin. Where should I tele next? Are they waiting for me? Hee heeeeeee.
Hawk, dont waste your time. It does not violate EULA or even reach the internet/battle.net. The activity is based on what computers connect to yours when someone joins your game. lol there are people like shadowfrench out there whose sole purpose is to violate the EULA and cheat in NON custom games. If they wont do anything about him, why would they bother with a program thats 1) benign, 2) for customs 3) doesnt violate EULA and 4) doesnt give a player an unfair advantage?
Report all you want, but dont expect any action. This really is pointless, I dont need to do shit like that to win, so Ill stick by the rules and just have fun- and not have my opponents hate me
Cya
I think there is an issue that is being overlooked by those who hate the banlist (I've yet to use it, only seen it being used). The biggest issue is whether it is wrong to ban someone (and possibly have others auto ban them) because they do something you don't approve of (leave, backdoor (against TDA rules, and cheap, definatly ban-worthy), be a general rear-end in the game). The solution is, it isn't. From a very simple logical look :
A: The program is within battle.net EULA rules, and does not break any.
B: The program does not affect the game as supported by battle.net (that is, the ladder games, custom games are NEVER supported by battle.net, but are allowed (which is why the host is always completely removed from battle.net once the game starts).
C: The host chooses to use the program, and how to use it. He has this right, because he is the rightful owner of the machine on which the game is being hosted.
D: No one is forced to play with banlist hosts.
E: Banlists will never take over even 10% of Dota games on battle.net servers, because of lack of interest and/or lack of know-how in using the program.
I don't see what the complaining is about. I'm about to start using Banlist right now. You may play the game however you want, but you shouldn't expect everyone to like it. You pick your host, he doesn't pick you, so don't forget that simple point (it is always an active decision by you to join a game with banlist running).
Well, here's something I don't get about this. It SOUNDS LIKE (but I may be mistaken) that if a person finds a glitch or bug in the game, and they exploit it, they're banlisted... Well, I can UNDERSTAND why you wouldn't want them to play that game, but still, why don't you FIX the bug, instead of just adding people to the list when they use the bug? Naturally word of a bug in a popular game is going to get around, and naturally people are going to take advantage of it if they get the chance. Why bother giving them that chance?
So, in short, it seems to me that you guys are either too lazy to fix your own game, or too full of yourselves to change it, and allow people who USED to use NO LONGER EXISTING bugs play a BETTER VERSION
The NEED for a banlist shouldn't even have arisen in the First Place -_-.
Backdooring is cheap? THEN FIX IT! Write a simple trigger that won't let Furion TP into the other base unless there are +5 creeps there or +2 heroes!
. . . Ten of these simple triggers could probably remove the reason for a BL altogether.
Don't want people leaving? Create a custom AI script for the remaining players of the person who left, and share control with the rest of the team. Use a timer to make the hero attack move to the enemy base, with a script that checks for certain conditions and makes him use abilities ro run away.
Give people a dynamic code at the end for a good hero.
Create a messed up trigger that crashes the game for someone who tries to leave. Disable the menu and make them run off of arrow keys (LOL)!
\/\/hile the BanList itself isn't really as evil as some have stated here (unless used haphazardly by an angry noob), the CAUSE for it shouldn't have surfaced at all. DotA is a good game, this measure isn't really appropriate. Simply basing the trees off of props would solve the problem. You guys said they were only for aesthetic values . . .
Once again, I'm not directly against the Banlist, but more for the cause of it. No disrespect intended (TM). Thanks.
I don't like banlist because its a form of control, when its not your right to control.
Everyone on battlenet - in theory - paid to play, just like you.
You can't control how people behave and act online - so you wrote a program that tries to, and still isn't perfect.
I just wrongfully lost the other day - because clinks, furion , AND the stupid wolf backdoored and suicided.
I swear a little and I walk away. I don't get uber angry, and write some kind of program to ban people from playing, and add the whole team off 11 year olds to a banlist, post about how awesome banlist is, thinking I control things that I ultimately, can't.
Blizzard locks down accounts who cheat - people with maphacks and other third party programs.
Blizzard doesn't ban people who teleport somewhere on the map.
Signatures can be edit in your account profile. As for the old stuffs, I'm thinking it's because Blizzard is now under Microsoft, and because of Microsoft Xbox going the way it is, it's dreadful.
@tom_mai78101 I must be blind. If I go on my profile I don't see any area to edit the signature; If I go to account details (settings) I don't see any signature area either.
You can get there if you click the bell icon (alerts) and choose preferences from the bottom, signature will be in the menu on the left there https://www.thehelper.net/account/preferences
I bought an Ender 3 during the pandemic and tinkered with it all the time. Just bought a Sovol, not as easy. I'm trying to make it use a different nozzle because I have a fuck ton of Volcanos, and they use what is basically a modified volcano that is just a smidge longer, and almost every part on this thing needs to be redone to make it work
So, 2.5mm longer. But the thing that measures the bed is about 1.5mm above the nozzle, so if I swap it with a volcano then I'm 1mm behind it. So cool, new bracket to swap that, but THEN the fan shroud to direct air at the part is ALSO going to be .5mm to low, and so I need to redo that, but by doing that it is a little bit off where it should be blowing and it's throwing it at the heating block instead of the part, and fuck man
I didn't realize they designed this entire thing to NOT be modded. I would have just got a fucking Bambu if I knew that, the whole point was I could fuck with this. And no one else makes shit for Sovol so I have to go through them, and they have... interesting pricing models. So I have a new extruder altogether that I'm taking apart and going to just design a whole new one to use my nozzles. Dumb design.
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