General First Sale Under Siege — If You Bought It, You Should Own It

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The "first sale" doctrine expresses one of the most important limitations on the reach of copyright law. The idea, set out in Section 109 of the Copyright Act, is simple: once you've acquired a lawfully-made CD or book or DVD, you can lend, sell, or give it away without having to get permission from the copyright owner. In simpler terms, "you bought it, you own it" (and because first sale also applies to gifts, "they gave it to you, you own it" is also true).

Seems obvious, right? After all, without the "first sale" doctrine, libraries would be illegal, as would used bookstores, used record stores, etc.

But the copyright industries have never liked first sale, since it creates competition for their titles (you could borrow the book from a friend, pick it up at a library, or buy it from a used book seller on Amazon). It also reduces their ability to impose restrictions on how you use the work after it is sold.

Two legal cases now pending could determine the future of the doctrine. The first is Kirtsaeng v. Wiley & Sons. In that case, a textbook publisher is trying to undercut first sale by claiming the law only covers goods made in the United States. That would mean anything that is made in a foreign country and contains copies of copyrighted material – from the textbooks at issue in the Kirtsaeng case to shampoo bottles with copyrighted labels – could be blocked from resale, lending, or gifting without the permission of the copyright owner. That would create a nightmare for consumers and businesses, upending used goods markets and undermining what it really means to “buy” and “own” physical goods. The ruling also creates a perverse incentive for U.S. businesses to move their manufacturing operations abroad. It is difficult for us to imagine this is the outcome Congress intended.

 
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One of my lecturers really loves this. He never liked the idea of people reselling albums, games, books, movies, etc.
I wouldn't want to see this happen, though. Let us resell what we've bought fair and square, dammit! If we're reselling, we probably have used it to our content or found the product shit.
 
We are so ravenous... if the Kirtsaeng v. Wiley & Sons goes in favor of the later and businesses do start moving production lines overseas the consequences would be long lasting and irreversible. I doubt any judge would risk being responsible for these consequences.
 
is simple: once you've acquired a lawfully-made CD or book or DVD, you can lend, sell, or give it away without having to get permission from the copyright owner. In simpler terms, "you bought it, you own it" (and because first sale also applies to gifts, "they gave it to you, you own it" is also true).

Seems obvious, right?
Yes!
 
I typically have a creed more along the lines of "If it's in my possession at the given time, I own it and it is mine."
 
What's there to prove? No matter what the circumstances are.. If it doesn't belong to you, therefore it nearly "always belongs to somebody else" No?
 
Steal an item, wait 20 years, it will then be officially yours to keep. Find a plot of land, wait 15 years, if no one claims it, it's yours to keep. Find an island, wait for 15 years without paying any taxes to nearby governments, if you followed through, you may claim the island as your country, and hope that your nearby governments accepts your proposal.
 
If you STEAL stuff, It won't ever be yours, NOT even after 20 years". No way!
 
Steal is a... very strong word. You can't steal what doesn't belong to anybody, now can you?
 
Steal is a... very strong word. You can't steal what doesn't
belong to anybody, now can you?
You're right, but that doesn't mean it still doesn't belong to someone else. And how do you know it doesn't belong to someone else? What do you do, when you find a cell phone or iPod etc... eh?
"Hmm It might belong to someone. .. But a well, It might not? I Just keep it. " So you wouldn't return it?

Then why is the statute of limitations 2 years?
How should I know? But In some cases these laws are stupid "that protect the bastards of our society"
 
Exactly. Meaning that laws stupido protect me after two years. Meaning I can steal whatever I want, and I only need to not tell anyone I stole it, for two years then it's mine.
 
Statuate of Limitations varies State by State and depends on the type of theft. If the theft crosses state lines that makes it a felony and is covered by a different set of laws. Basically, it is a different set of rules for different places and it all depends on the circumstances.
 
Hmm If you taking back what's yours "after two years"... Is that stealing?

Btw: What If a "Thief steal from a Thief?"
 
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