PVP Question. (Mage vs Rogue)

[Cornface]

Well if i were playing with a warlock, i would do my best to keep the warrior off the warlock, so the warlock could fear... Seeing as the cooldown for fear is what... 6 seconds? XD

Err, have you ever heard of
http://thottbot.com/s18499
http://thottbot.com/s12292
http://thottbot.com/s23920 RNG mace stuns and trinkets.

Also, how the fuck can you loose because they trinket out of ONE single stun? Lets say you face a warlock. You give him a cheap shot, if the warlock is smart, he will let it last. You will nuke him down to 70-80% if you don't suck. When the cheap shot is gone, you kidney shot him and the warlock trinkets. He tries to throw a fear, and you pop Cloak of Shadows/trinket. In case you use cloak of shadows, you run up to him, do gauge or just let the poisons slow him down while the nuke the hell out of him. If you're equally geared or better, he should be dead by now.

 

[Seannny]

Err, have you ever heard of
http://thottbot.com/s18499
http://thottbot.com/s12292
http://thottbot.com/s23920 RNG mace stuns and trinkets.

Also, how the fuck can you loose because they trinket out of ONE single stun? Lets say you face a warlock. You give him a cheap shot, if the warlock is smart, he will let it last. You will nuke him down to 70-80% if you don't suck. When the cheap shot is gone, you kidney shot him and the warlock trinkets. He tries to throw a fear, and you pop Cloak of Shadows/trinket. In case you use cloak of shadows, you run up to him, do gauge or just let the poisons slow him down while the nuke the hell out of him. If you're equally geared or better, he should be dead by now.

If the warlock is smart, as im nuking, and CloS is down, he will sacrafice his Pet, if its the tank that is.. Which he should have against a melee fighter... With this he is free to cast and do whatever, in fact if he really was determined and lucky he could fear you in this state and re cast that or another pet. if not, he shadowbolt and continues to fear you. leaving dots on and having you running, you break it if your undead but hey... its like a 1.5 second cast or so right? you cant make it back in time, Unless of course you vanish... But in that case he should still have the sacrafice bubble on... So you can either run like hell, or if your in arena, start summoning your next pet / having your partner help you or you help him.
And yes he WILL have the sacrafice bubble on becuase if the rogue wants to even come close to surviving those 10k shadowbolt crits then he will trinket/Undead racial Out of it + vanish.. Becuase a warlock is painful.

And on the warrior topic perhaps your right. Ive never really cared for warriors so i never pay attention/ learn about them.

Ps: Its fun talking to someone who actually has a brain and can logically argue back... its hard to find them in the World of Warcraft >.>

 

[Cornface]

If the warlock is smart, as im nuking, and CloS is down, he will sacrafice his Pet, if its the tank that is.

Well, here comes the problem, what if the rogue trinkets out of the first fear? That means you have Clos ready for when I sacrificed my pet, giving you time to nuke it down while you have Clos up. That completely destroys your whole plan.

And oh, we dont crit 10k unless we have raid pots, full BT/Sunwell gear and destro specc. I had 1300 spell dmg SL/SL specced on my lock (that is hacked right now) and I critted around 3k.

 

[Seannny]

So if he trinkets out of the first fear we fear him again.

the bubble provided lasts how long? 20 seconds? and absorbs how much damage?

I think your missing the point im trying to make here, the lock, maybe not EASILY, but can get the rogue away, and once the rogue is away, hes toast, because the rogue has no moves like Dash, aside from sprint, its tough.

However if the rogue is Subtley then yeah id suppose the warlock would get owned, Not thinking about shadowstep or preperation.

 

[Cornface]

So if he trinkets out of the first fear we fear him again.

However if the rogue is Subtley then yeah id suppose the warlock would get owned, Not thinking about shadowstep or preperation.

First, that is close to impossible. The rogue is able to interrupt the fear and pushback it in so many ways it is close to impossible.

Second, 98% of all the arena rogues is Subtlety so yes, warlocks do get slaughtered by rogues. But nothing is impossible.

 

[turbo_negro]

Rogue will most deffinentally rape the mage unless your the mage then no rogue can defeat you.

 

[Dr.Jack]

Funny, with my level 59 rogue I have huge problems with mages.
Slow them to death, as said, Nova, Blink, Frostball, whatever works. And if they vanish just keeping going in circles, it would make it very hard to attack you from behind. You can always use DoTs to make sure they won't vanish to run a way.