immolation

[vonahs]

how do u make immolation damage scale based upon units damage?

 

[baassee]

Use triggers.

 

[TomTTT]

Use triggers.

True.
Make a periodic of units around the caster, add them to a unit group, create a special effect on them and damage them.

 

[vonahs]

just to get immolation to do a scaleing damage? cant even have it do 10% of enemys health

 

[Cheddar]

It's impossible to return a unit's damage for use in triggers. It doesn't show up in the Integer or Real section.

 

[vonahs]

so its nit possible to have immolation do scaling damage? can you use reseasrch to lvl it as a unit spell vs a hero spell. same way you research attack damage and armor?

 

[Zorobay]

well you might be able to do it in a pretty complicated way. What if you add the units that were damage by immolation and then you create dummy units that is the same as the ones damaged. Then create dummy units that take damage from the dummy creeps. then calculate how much damage the dummy units were taken and then damage the "creeps"!

 

[vonahs]

too far beyong what im capable of.

 

[skyblader]

Okay so if I get you right, what you want to do is create immolation that damages enemy for 10% of their health every second?

Simply add units that come in range to a unit group and remove it when they're out of range.

Create a dummy unit and use it to damage the units in the unit group for 10% of their max health.

However, if you want to create immolation based on your damage, I don't think it's possible. Damage detection systems would work... but only when your unit actually attacks.

 

[DioD]

database with every unit damage
trigger to deal AOE damage every 0.1 second
???
done

this is nothing hard after blizzard added hashtables into GUI.

since most likely only one unit will have immolation, you need to store only his damage, and every possible bonus.

 

[vypur85]

> this is nothing hard
> store only his damage, and every possible bonus

Hmmm...

All in all, there won't be a desirable result. Forget about this. Use some other unit data as reference to the damage. The unit's life is a good start.

 

[baassee]

You just need to damage formula, attributes and bonuses and you're good to go. Although if you aren't experienced with this, move along.

 

[KaerfNomekop]

How about creating a copy of the targeted unit, changing its ownership to the Immolation unit's owner, then getting the copy to attack the target?

 

[hopy]

You just need to damage formula, attributes and bonuses and you're good to go. Although if you aren't experienced with this, move along.

We'll just calculate the hero's damage it can do and damage units with a random amount based on those calculations.

Now, a hero's damage done is based on his primary stat, damage dices and bonus items such as claws.

Damage: (Base damage + Amount of Dice) -> (Base damage + (Amount of DicexNumber of Sides))

Save the units damage bonus gained from items and abilities in a real, we'll call it [Bonus Damage], only items like claws (bonus damage) not stats like boots of argility.
Afther that save the hero's main atribute (argility, strenght or int) in another real, include bonusses, we'll call it [Base Damage].

Now search the units 'Attack - number of dice' and 'Attack - Number per dice'.We'll save these two things in a real called [Attack - number of dice] and [Attack - Number per dice].


'Set [Total Damage] = (Random number between ((([Base Damage] + [Bonus Damage]) + [Attack - Number of Dice])) and (([Base Damage] + [Bonus Damage]) + ([Attack - number of dice] x [Attack - Number per dice])))'

Please keep in mind that this is all hand typed and I don't have a World Editor here at the moment.

Now if for example the hero has Command Aura increasing the total damage by 10% add something like:
'Set [Total Damage] = ([Total Damage] x 1.10)'.

I know this isn't exactly the amount of damage the hero would've done, but it's close enough I think.

Please let me know if this was unclear, haven't got much time to tpye a long story and I don't have World Editor with me here. These are just the calculations for damage.

 

[TomTTT]

maybe make a periodic of this unit attacking a dummy, and setting the damage dealt into a variable, and by that damaging the others? This really isn't so effective.

 

[vonahs]

now yall are over my head. what about spell lvl? can it be upgraded? cuz immolation as a unit spell can still ahve 3 lvls. can i upgrade spell lvl and just have certain amount of damage increase as spell increases?

 

[Cheddar]

maybe make a periodic of this unit attacking a dummy, and setting the damage dealt into a variable, and by that damaging the others? This really isn't so effective.

You'd have to adjust for the enemies' armors, plus if your unit dies or just never gets the opportunity to attack then it'd create problems. If it's done voluntarily then a player could just stack 6 of the most damaging items in the game, attack the dummy, and then build normally while maxing out Immolation despite not having the combination of items that give the maximum damage.

 

[Ayanami]

We'll just calculate the hero's damage it can do and damage units with a random amount based on those calculations.

Now, a hero's damage done is based on his primary stat, damage dices and bonus items such as claws.

Damage: (Base damage + Amount of Dice) -> (Base damage + (Amount of DicexNumber of Sides))

Save the units damage bonus gained from items and abilities in a real, we'll call it [Bonus Damage], only items like claws (bonus damage) not stats like boots of argility.
Afther that save the hero's main atribute (argility, strenght or int) in another real, include bonusses, we'll call it [Base Damage].

Now search the units 'Attack - number of dice' and 'Attack - Number per dice'.We'll save these two things in a real called [Attack - number of dice] and [Attack - Number per dice].


'Set [Total Damage] = (Random number between ((([Base Damage] + [Bonus Damage]) + [Attack - Number of Dice])) and (([Base Damage] + [Bonus Damage]) + ([Attack - number of dice] x [Attack - Number per dice])))'

Please keep in mind that this is all hand typed and I don't have a World Editor here at the moment.

Now if for example the hero has Command Aura increasing the total damage by 10% add something like:
'Set [Total Damage] = ([Total Damage] x 1.10)'.

I know this isn't exactly the amount of damage the hero would've done, but it's close enough I think.

Please let me know if this was unclear, haven't got much time to tpye a long story and I don't have World Editor with me here. These are just the calculations for damage.

If there's a lot of Auras and Items in the map, this method would be pretty tedious and not worth it for just a single Immolation, unless the thread OP wants to do that much work for a single Immolation.

 

[vonahs]

ok the spells also have spell lvls. exp if you turn a hero spell into a unit spell it still have 3 lvls how do you utlizes those spell levels for lets say a mage?

 

[skyblader]

Please give more details. What do you mean utilize the levels for a mage? And if it's a different problem altogether, you should start a new thread instead.