Is Gear Score annoying to you?

[mike.jackson]

Can't stand this...at all. Makes PUG'ing almost impossible.

 

[Oninuva]

How does it make it impossible?

 

[Flare]

How does it make it impossible?

If you're on one of those realms with stupid GearScore expectations ("LFM ICC10 5.5k GS needed!"), then it's (practically) impossible unless you spend months gathering Emblem of Frost gear, or resort to using PvP gear to inflate the number (which'd probably earn you a swift /kick )

Personally, I've never had an issue with getting into GearScore PUG's for the most part (since a number of the raid leaders have more reasonable GS requirements), but I don't like it when various people (whether they are raid-leading, or not) immediately assume that higher GearScore makes for a better player ("lololol, these 245 Emblem trinkets will give me l33t gs, regardless of whether or not they are useful!!!!111")

 

[Oninuva]

Well gear score does give a certain guideline to wether or you meet the requirments, for example, if you have 4000 gear score don't expect to go to ICC unless your gettin run through it by guildies or something but generally if someone's forming a pug, they want members to be able to pull their own weight and you really can't judge someone you don't know with anything other than their gearscore and maybe achievements.

 

[Darthfett]

It was annoying pre-GS not knowing whether a player even had decent gear. I'll admit that players that follow strict GS requirements can be a bit unrealistic, but it's better than nothing.

Also, don't forget that PUG'ing almost any instance pre-WotLK was near impossible in the first place, except for the entry level ones (unless you had a realm that was full of high level guilds).

There are many players that would agree with me that it's pretty easy to get gear in WotLK, which makes GS a much more trivial thing compared to previous expansions:

You can purchase gear
You can join the Dungeon Finder and find regular/heroic 5-mans for gear (without the hassle of actually putting together a group)
You can form/join a raid for VoA and have a chance of getting a really good epic

All are much preferred options to what was available pre-BC and in BC: Join a guild and raid.

Yes, 5500 GS requirement is overkill. However, it does make things run smoothly, considering even the terrible players they pick up will still be able to easily do the damage needed to one-shot every boss.

 

[Crazy_Dead]

I think it's a spiral. If you dont have 5.5k GS, you wont get in it. And it rolls...

 

[Winterherz]

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......Ghostcrawler

We're really not that interested in trying to shut mods like this down. Players will always have the Armory and to a lesser extent Inspect with which to judge other players.

It's not an easy problem to solve. On the one hand, we can recognize that there is value in being able to determine if that guy you are considering for your pug is much less experienced and talented than he claims to be and is going to drag everyone else down and cause other players to leave. On the other hand, the WoW community seems to have become so obsessed with efficiency and so adverse to wiping that there is, in my opinion, an unreasonable demand for player skill and gear requirements even for relatively easy content. It's one thing if your VoA tank is in all blues. It's another if you're asking for Ulduar gear for your Naxx run.

Many players are perfectly reasonable. However we've all run into That Guy who takes any attempt at measuring his awesomeness in the game (gearscore, achievements, dps meters) way too seriously and looks for the same in others.

 

[Crazy_Dead]

Just have to ask, what is PUG'ing?

 

[Darthfett]

Just have to ask, what is PUG'ing?

Finding a group with a bunch of people you don't know. PUG stands for Pick-Up Group.

 

[Crazy_Dead]

Finding a group with a bunch of people you don't know. PUG stands for Pick-Up Group.

Like, Guild Raiding, up and down.

 

[UndeadDragon]

No, guild raiding is the opposite. PUG'ing is raiding with people you find on the trade channel for example.