Roller Coster!

[rover2341]

Hmm. this could be a fun game. I would basicly build a system for people to make there own roller costers. you would get 5-10 min to make. and then they would be judged by the game and the players whos is funnest. Might be bit of triggering. But it could be done.

Who doesn't want to see a orc riding a roller coaster with hes hands in the air?

 

[Forsakener]

dont you alread y have a post like this? :thdown: Anyway i think it would be a fun game but it would require a lot of triggering and it would have a lot of bugs.. Good luck!:thup:

 

[Kazuga]

Eh, it would be possible to make something like that but it's a big risk for huge lagg since all things will be moved with sliding..

 

[WindexIsBack]

Kazuga; sliding triggers can handle dozens of units. Only one coaster active at a time of course.

THe main problem is the there has to be an animation for the cart for every type of railing.

 

[Kazuga]

Kazuga; sliding triggers can handle dozens of units. Only one coaster active at a time of course.

Yes I know that but imagine 50+ sliding units at the same time almost constant sliding.

 

[Samael88]

It sounds like a really wonderful idea. And with thought of your train map it looks like you are ready to take the triggering to the next level:thup:

THe main problem is the there has to be an animation for the cart for every type of railing

I actually don't think that will be the main problem
I think it may be something like the building the rollercoster part

How are you going to handle that part?
Is it going to be a plain rollercoaster? Or is it going to be like in roller coaster tycoon where you can make it with hills and stuff?
How are you planning to make the sloaps if that is the case? It will need some serious thought

sorry for all the questions, but I really qurious

Yes I know that but imagine 50+ sliding units at the same time almost constant sliding.

That is not impossible to do. I made a trigger that can handle up to 400 balls bouncing in different directions, and it does it without lag to
So why should sliding not be able to handle 50 units?

 

[Cheesy]

It sounds fun, but I doubt you would be able to make it. At least not easily. It would take some heavy triggering especially since it is user created. But prove me wrong. Make this and show me that I shouldn't have doubted you. Good luck. :thup:

 

[UnknowVector]

Well, there is no need for 50+ sliding units at once. Just one cart, and have the camera track behind it. What fun is a roller coaster if you aren't riding it? I suppose you could place a peon in the ride for each player, and if you want to be really fancy, make each player's camera track behind their peon. That might be a bit of a pain though.

Will everyone build a roller coaster together, or will each person build there own?

And a couple of suggestions, take them or leave them, I don't want to interrupt your vision .

You might consider dividing the map into 12 rectangles linked by a central "amusement park" with a CoP for each player's roller coaster, then, when enough people assemble on it, the creator of the coaster can activate the ride for everyone on the CoP. That way people can choose which coaster they want to ride. People do similar things in maze design games; when someone starts a maze, they ALMOST link it to the main platform where the waiting players stand, but they leave off one tile until the maze is complete.

If I were playing your game, I would want to use a series of 3 dimensional way points. Each one could be represented by an sfx of your choice (a REALLY tall custom tower model might work, you could just sink it into the ground; but make sure it is tall enough to reach the max height), and you could make rails with lightening effects (which I THINK are 3 dimensional).

Good luck.

 

[cowmenace]

rollercoaster tycoon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I remember playing that hours at a time!
if you can make it so that you have a rating of G's (like for how fast you are going and how sharp the turn) then there will be a higher rating and will attract more peons to your place. the person with the most peons wins. You also can build like popcorn stands and restrooms etc and then to start out you make easy rides (you have to model them) like that swinging boat and fun stuff like that. Then once you get money you build roller coasters and coasters are like 10x more important than small rides so you HAVE to build mainly coasters to attract peons. You can end the game with who got the most G's in one roller coaster and who got more peons and who wasted the most money and bad rides etc have several awards

 

[demotry241]

I played sim theme park.... awesome

 

[rover2341]

I think it may be something like the building the rollercoster part
How are you going to handle that part?

Well I plan on giveing every player 4-8 pices to work with, and then you can turn the pice 45 degrees, Go up or down one "hole Step" There would be about 4-8 Levels Of Hight you can work with.
The key will be everyone will start at hight 1 and will go to hight 6. (pulled up) And after that. Then you will build your track. And if you dont build it right you wont make it to the end of your track.
There might be a thing saying before you place your next pice...This wont Work. Like your trying to go from height zero go 6 with a straight piece.

Is it going to be a plain rollercoaster? Or is it going to be like in roller coaster tycoon where you can make it with hills and stuff?
How are you planning to make the sloaps if that is the case? It will need some serious thought

Partly answered this before, but you wont be able to adjust the ground only the hight of each piece you add. Yes everyone would make there own roller coaster. And i think they could test it as they go.

50 units you guys keep talking about? i dont even know what you mean. But There would be 1-5 carts but everyone would have the same amount. I may allow the carts to be heaver or lighter...

Well, there is no need for 50+ sliding units at once. Just one cart, and have the camera track behind it. What fun is a roller coaster if you aren't riding it? I suppose you could place a peon in the ride for each player, and if you want to be really fancy, make each player's camera track behind their peon. That might be a bit of a pain though.

Yes i like the camera idea.

Will everyone build a roller coaster together, or will each person build there own?

everyone will build there own.

Someone said somthing about modeling...Ya those are nice.
But thats the last thing i am thinking about.
Ill figure way to set it up to they will just fit in if the models are made right...But Thats just for looks.

UnknowVector suggestions:

Ya i relly like the idea that at the end people could go from train to train to ride them. I may even have a few that are preMade by me. That you can try. (maybe)

I would most likey not take advantage of the warcrafts systems much. I would most likey do this all by hand on paper first, and then put them into triggers. Not sure if that makes sence to anyone...But i mean all warcraft will do is place the tracks, High-Low, Turn Pice. And Then it would connect to a 2d grid (No one would see) With 6 demtions of hight, So sorta 3d... And ect ect... (The Gird will only be variables most likely...but in theory is there)


Slideing...Why would they have to move that way...Maybe...




Ok FYI, this is still just a idea concept. I still have a few unfinished games, That fully work..but still a bit hard to learn + need alot of polishing and adding of a few things to make them fun. Not to say i might put those on hold...Because i am sorta drained on those projects. If i really get serious about this project i will let you know. But i really don't think it would be that bad. (But i have been wrong before)

 

[BlackRose]

It would be fun if possible, but due to the fact its Warcraft III, I don't like it....not 3-dish...and I never even played a ROLLER COASTER game...but if you can make it...I would definitely try it out.

 

[Hildagarn]

sounds cool....sounds hard though >.<

 

[rover2341]

Ok I stayed up a bit last night...And heres a Basic outline of my apporch

What The map will need.

AutoRollercoster. That will make sure roller coaster goes from point a to point b to point c and the right speed, and angle. (May have train teleport if it cant turn fast enough but I gona avoid this at all cost…because I think it will make it look jumpy, Crapy)

System of rules to help assist the players set pieces in place.
Also To make sure the Track will run correctly.

Velocity/Speed/amount of Slow down from Wind and other sources.

A lot of finishing touches (Doesn’t really matter But will make the game “look Way better”) It will require ect attention because the tracks will just be floating there, with floating other pieces that will just look like they are connected, and look like the cart is riding on them.
Between 8-20 Models (For Tracks/Train).



My largest fear is finding a good balance between staying on the track(Model) and Stoping and going... But worse comes to worse it will stop and go some..
I had trobbel with this on my last map...but i resolved it...But the curves in this game will require hiting a few more points...so we will see.





Basic outline for a plan...(not sure i gona do it yet)

Spoiler

Phase 1:

2 Types of track Used: (Straight) and (Straight Hill Piece)
Both Track Models, cart Model (Don’t have to be nice…I might use burrows if I have to)
5 Levels of Height allowed

very Basic Terrain.

Basic User commands.
Change Piece (Stright) Straight Hill Piece
Place Track. Turn Track (Mostly For The Stright Hill Piece)
Go Back 1 Piece.
Test Roller coaster.


Phase 2:

Add curve Track.
Curve Track Model.
Add Curve Track to Change Piece

Phase 3:

Add Roller Coaster Velocity/Speed/amount of Slow down from Wind and other sources over time. (I have a formula for this…its mostly right. just a few adjustments.)

Phase 4:

Add New Piece, Angle Curve Track.
Angle Curve Track Model
Add Angle Curve Track to Change Piece
Add Cameras, If not already done because of need.

Phase 5:

Add Special Block Pieces. Like Loop That’s all constructed. Or Add 2-3 pices/OverRideing rules of my current logic for those pieces.

This is undecided Because of the complexity of loops. I really want to give as much freedom as possible. I have found a way that you could have a loop with a coaster going throw the middle. Make a circle with your Thumb and index finger, then shove your other thumb in the Circle. So you would take the loop but at some point you could go throw the middle of it.





Phase 6:
Clean Up Looks Of Models, Add Support Beams Visual.
Try To make sure the Cart is running As smooth as possible, with out noticeable stop and go, But still balanced with making the cart look like its riding on the track.

Really Setting up the map for a decent terrain-er to get ready to work in.

Phase 7:
Cleaning Up Icons.
Sound effects.
Setting up Game methods to play.
You have x amount of cash. Or you start at x height. Ect ect.
Throwing in the easy but stuff that makes it a good map.

Phase 8:
I get someone to terrain the map.

Phase 9:
Clean up last Details, And then start First official Beta.

Ok that might not explain much but the picture should explain the basic idea...if not that at least i spent some time in seeing how this could be done...

 

[XeNiM666]

Sounds VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY FUN!!!!

But i think its VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY HARD!!!!