Report RCSI study finds that over 20% of children report hearing voices.

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In most cases, the auditory hallucinations stop with time, the findings show. But children who continue to hear voices could be at risk of mental illness or behavioural disorders.

Researchers carried out psychiatric assessments of almost 2,500 children aged between 11 and 16 in Dublin.

They discovered that 21%-23% of younger adolescents, aged 11 to 13, had experienced auditory hallucinations.

Of this group, just over half were found to have a non-psychotic psychiatric disorder such as depression.

 
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Just over half doesn't say much about it.
Seems too evenly distributed to be considered a sign of other disorders.

So, if you're 11-16 in Dublin and hear voices, you're probably normal.
 
Why do they only ask kids from a single city of a single country on earth and try to make a claim for all kids around the world?
Maybe that city is wicked or something or maybe people from britain are strange by default.
Come on researchers, at least try to make your studies convincing.
 
At least their sample size is big. Not including the locality of the sample, though.
 
I grew up pretty poor, and imaginary friends kept me going. Once I was about 8, they went away. However, when I still had them, they were very real, voices and all. Let kids have their friends, until these friends start telling them to hurt themselves or someone else.
 
I grew up pretty poor, and imaginary friends kept me going. Once I was about 8, they went away. However, when I still had them, they were very real, voices and all. Let kids have their friends, until these friends start telling them to hurt themselves or someone else.

Did you read the first bit where it says that's normal?
 
Why do they only ask kids from a single city of a single country on earth and try to make a claim for all kids around the world?
Maybe that city is wicked or something or maybe people from britain are strange by default.
Come on researchers, at least try to make your studies convincing.

that news article came from ireland which dublin is a part of so it wasnt reported internationally, and in no where did the article try to claim that kids from all over the world was experiencing the same thing so...
 
that news article came from ireland which dublin is a part of so it wasnt reported internationally, and in no where did the article try to claim that kids from all over the world was experiencing the same thing so...

RCSI study finds that over 20% of children report hearing voices.

In most cases, the auditory hallucinations stop with time, the findings show. But children who continue to hear voices could be at risk of mental illness or behavioural disorders.
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At the very beginning.
 
They say it is reported for 20% of children when in fact they found it in 20% of children from dublin.
This is, even if we assume the sample size is big enough to have any significance only a statement about children from dublin.

There can be so many reasons why this "might" not be the case for children in any other region on earth. At least this study does not give any information about ALL children on earth.
 
So your issue is that they didn't add "In Dublin" to the headline of a news article from Dublin?
 
My issue is that they only took samples from a single city and try to make this a study.
In school our teachers like always told us how to take "good" sample sizes in our social sciences lessons and in 7 out of 10 news articles i read how people who are said to be researchers dont follow those rules.
 
It is a study. Locally done, that happened to find it's way on the Internet. Your claim has no foundation to stand on. It's not a study because that's not how you were taught to do it in school?
 
My issue is that they only took samples from a single city and try to make this a study.
In school our teachers like always told us how to take "good" sample sizes in our social sciences lessons and in 7 out of 10 news articles i read how people who are said to be researchers dont follow those rules.

Its true that a research can be enhanced by longitudinal study but have you any idea how much it will cost? Many of these research are not heavily funded so its unlikely they will have a gigantic sample size. Many researches that i use to write my papers for psychology which is pretty close to the area of psychiatry (i think?) are based on a few experiments but yet its accepted amongst scholars all over the world. This research use a bit more depth but just because it didnt doesnt mean its not convincing.
 
It is a study. Locally done, that happened to find it's way on the Internet. Your claim has no foundation to stand on. It's not a study because that's not how you were taught to do it in school?
You seem to try to read into my post whatever you feel like.
I just say i dont like how they picked their sample size and thus do not try to draw any conclusions out of their research other then what the article says. Over 20% of children from dublin hear voices.

Its true that a research can be enhanced by longitudinal study but have you any idea how much it will cost? Many of these research are not heavily funded so its unlikely they will have a gigantic sample size. Many researches that i use to write my papers for psychology which is pretty close to the area of psychiatry (i think?) are based on a few experiments but yet its accepted amongst scholars all over the world. This research use a bit more depth but just because it didnt doesnt mean its not convincing.

It is not convincing for me.
I am sorry, but to draw conclusions out of sample tests you need a good sample first.
They can research all day long but their findings are of little value if they cannot prove what they found out (which is pretty much impossible in these cases) or take a sample size which leaves no room for doubt.
This is not the case in my opinion.
 
It is not convincing for me.
I am sorry, but to draw conclusions out of sample tests you need a good sample first.
They can research all day long but their findings are of little value if they cannot prove what they found out (which is pretty much impossible in these cases) or take a sample size which leaves no room for doubt.
This is not the case in my opinion.

i respect your opinion but by saying that you basically dismissed probably around 50% to 70% of all studies, i hope you know that in order for studies to be published, especially the ones on prestigious journal or forums and such, they must be reviewed by other leading scholars so i think that they would know what a good and valid sample is like.
 
I am not against those studies, i just want to tell people not to take them too seriously with a sample size like that.
Might turn out to be right anyways, but i am talking about probabilities here.
 
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